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Re: From release notes for FC5T3 (web)



On Fri, 2006-03-10 at 18:17 -0600, akonstam trinity edu wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 08:43:57AM -0700, Craig White wrote:
> > On Fri, 2006-03-10 at 10:03 -0500, Claude Jones wrote:
> > > On Fri March 10 2006 9:49 am, Craig White wrote:
> > > > To that end - you have to ask yourself, why am I posting this here to
> > > > the fedora-list...
> > > 
> > > OK - that's fair. There are many points to be made, but I'll make one. By 
> > > alerting the huge user base here, who mostly are not reading the development 
> > > list, of changes being made that they may not agree with, some may be 
> > > sufficiently moved to go to the relevant places to register their 
> > > disagreement. If this discussion were not being held here, there are many who 
> > > would be greatly surprised, unpleasantly so, on March 15, when they went to 
> > > install their new FC5. 
> > ----
> > I think that your last sentence above makes my point about commiserating
> > with others.
> > 
> > My analysis is that you have little confidence in your opinion to post
> > it up separately in bugzilla or fedora-developers list but emboldened by
> > a few people who will agree with you gives you the confidence to go
> > forward.
> > 
> > Suit yourself.
> > 
> > My expectation is that nothing will ultimately come of this and thus it
> > lives in the archives as another topic discussed on this list and dies
> > there...and that's why I think it is cathartic enough for many to just
> > have talked about it on this list.
> > 
> I would agree with you and Rahul on this if people who complained
> on the appropriate list did not testify earlier that hteir
> complaints were ignored.
---
they aren't ignored though...as evidenced just a short while ago, Jim
Cornette created a bugzilla entry today and it was already responded to.

There is perception and there is reality. 

The perception is that complaining on this list might actually do some
good. The reality is, your complaints WILL be ignored for the most part
on this list.

The perception is that if you create an RFE on bugzilla, it will be
ignored. The reality is (at the very least, in this one instance), it
was attended to the same day. Mind you that the RFE was stated clearly
and the response offered alternatives that seemed reasonably suitable.

Craig


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