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Re: FC Pine passfile default? Maintainer(s)?

On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 13:17 -0400, Beartooth wrote:
> Over on comp.mail.pine, I recently lucked into catching the invaluable
> interest of Nancy McGough, the authority on making Pine jump through hoops
> and like it at www.ii.com. With her vast help, I'm at least halfway (as
> near as I can judge) to setting up a master Pine configuration to handle
> my very different email accounts from one place; and at this point she has
> recommended, and after consulting my local LUG I have agreed, that I would
> do well to set up a passfile.
> But there we hit a snag. She asks : 
> > OK, let's go for it! I can walk you through setting it up using 
> > the '-passfile' command-line argument, but it would be useful for 
> > you (and others!) to find out the default value that this RedHat 
> > Pine uses. Could you please ask the maintainer of that RH Pine 
> > package what is the default Pine PASSFILE that he/she built this 
> > RH Pine with? That way I can write about it in the Pine docs I'm 
> > writing.
> The snag, of course (as I have just explained, I hope not too verbosely,
> on c.m.p) is that I have no idea who the maintainer is. (Incidentally, it
> would be a vast benefit if someone could find a way to make "yum install
> pine" work, presumably through some one or more of the unofficial repos.)

pine is available in livna. Follow the instructions at
http://rpm.livna.org/configuration.html to configure your yum to use the
livna repo.

You can usually find out who the maintainer of a package is by looking
at the changelog:

$ rpm -q --changelog pine

> My own procedure, fwiw, is to get an rpm for each new Fedora, from UW or
> Dag or livna; try "rpm -ivh" (or -Uvh); get a dependency or three (nearly
> always); command "yum install <dependency>" -- hoping for all I'm worth to
> see that succeed; repeat the rpm command; and turn instantly back into a
> happy camper. 

If you configure yum for Dag or livna (but not both since they are
incompatible with each other), you can just use yum and avoid this

If you like the hassle, something else you'll want to avoid is trying
"yum localinstall some.rpm", where yum will try to install some.rpm for
you, getting all the dependencies it needs from your configured

> Until all that works, I keep one machine un-upgraded, just for running
> Pine; I'm a diehard's diehard about that. (I took up linux, years ago,
> most of all in order to be able to run real Pine.)
> If there at least *IS* a Fedora default passfile for Pine, common to
> maintainers of Pine for Fedora, what is it? Or if there is one maintainer,
> or a chief maintainer, who is it and is there somewhere else I should ask?
> If there are two or three defaults (for UW, livna, and Dag perhaps?), what
> are they?
> Fwiw, I'm sure my own present instance is from livna; but the more
> definitively and completely I can report back to comp.mail.pine, and for
> Nancy's splendid Pine FAQ, the better.

Pine's license will prevent it ever appearing in an official repo, so
livna is probably the place to go for.


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