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Re: ntpd and kernel message set_rtc_mmss: can't update

On Mon, 2006-10-23 at 06:19 +1300, Rob Brown-Bayliss wrote:
> [root localhost ~]# ntpq -p
>      remote           refid      st t when poll reach   delay   offset  jitter
> ==============================================================================
>  mu-relay1.masse      2 u   16   64  177  170.570  -798.72 12760.3
>  ns1.compass.net     2 u   14   64  177  112.739  -13008. 7668.06
>  cobol.appello.n     2 u   14   64  177  162.234  -897.55 11922.0
>  ntp.thistledown .GPS.            1 u   19   64  177  203.800  -3927.4 9253.24
>  gen2.ihug.co.nz    2 u   14   64  177  140.795  -7057.9 7349.37
> [root localhost ~]# ntpdate
> 23 Oct 06:15:35 ntpdate[3869]: no servers can be used, exiting

I see the same sort of thing.  I'm hazarding a guess that ntpdate is
trying to find servers from a different place than the NTP daemon looks.
Very briefly looking at the ntpdate man file, I think you're supposed to
specify a server with the ntpdate command, I don't think it looks for
servers in a configuration file.

> One thing I have noticed is the reach value is different every time I
> run ntpq.

Does it change when you've left NTP running for a while?  I've just
rebooted, and mine started at 77, went up to 177 after the poll period,
then to 377 after the next poll period.  Do ntpq -p a few times, and
watch the "when" and "poll" columns over a few seconds.  See the when
counting up?  (In seconds.)  Once the when count has counted up to the
value in the poll period (e.g. if it's currently polling every 64
seconds, you'll see the when count, count up to 64, then restart
counting up), it'll poll the servers and adjust the local NTP daemon.
You should see the reach column increase after a little while.

(Currently testing FC5, but still running FC4, if that's important.)

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