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Re: network has gone down again, and I cannot figure out why

On Sun, 2006-09-24 at 10:48 -0400, Ric Moore wrote:
> Does anyone recognize this??
> root iam etc]# rc.d/init.d/network start
> Bringing up loopback interface:                            [  OK  ]
> Bringing up interface eth0:  RTNETLINK answers: Invalid argument

You might want to post your networkworking scripts related to the

"ll /etc/sysconfig/network*" to go looking for them,
or: "locate eth |grep /etc", if the drive has been indexed recently.

> What is really strange is this...
> [root iam etc]# more hosts
> # Do not remove the following line, or various programs
> # that require network functionality will fail.
>       localhost.localdomain   localhost       iam
>  iam.wayward4now.net     wayward4now.net
> Notice the alias iam on the localhost line? WTF? Since when would
> anything get added other than localhost.localdomain and localhost?

Depending on your network setup, you might want to go around disabling
various auto-configuration systems.  But we don't know enough about your
network to start you off in the right direction.

> This is pretty crucial as I have people from www.prisontalk.com "coming
> in to visit today" after church... at least I don't have to dress or put
> on clothes. Up again until 5AM, this is really old.

Too much information, I think...  That's a strange church you're
involved with, don't drop the soap...  Sorry, could not resist.

> Now I'm back in DHCP mode with the DSL modem and still get

Is your modem just a modem, or does it act as a router as well?  Have
you powered off and on your modem to reset it?

What's DHCP doing?  Your router configuring your internal network?  Your
ISP configuring your PC to have a real public IP?

> Error while performing operation.
> Host lookup failed: smtp.googlemail.com: Temporary failure in name
> resolution
> It's slow as hell, too. Something somewhere having something to do with
> named I'm guessing. Was that BIND issue resolved?? ls this helpful? From
> messages: note: I'm in DHCP mode and STILL getting errors resolving! 
> Sep 24 09:06:51 iam ntpd[1919]: sendto( Invalid argument
> <----- that's the DSL modem, 
> Sep 24 09:23:56 iam last message repeated 3 times
> Sep 24 09:24:04 iam last message repeated 2 times

NTP (network time protocol) is hoping to use your router as its time
server.  It mightn't provide that.  You might want to try pool.ntp.org
instead.  See <http://www.pool.ntp.org/> for more information.

> Sep 24 09:37:34 iam named[1644]: unexpected RCODE (SERVFAIL) resolving 'oasc04008.247realmedia.com/AAAA/IN':

The AAAA bit is trying to find an IPv6 address for it.  There may not be
one (quite normal).  Your ISP may not support IPv6 (quite common).  You
probably don't need to know it anyway, just about everything is still
using IPv4 addressing.

> Sep 24 09:37:45 iam named[1644]: lame server resolving 'oasc04a.247realmedia.com' (in 'oasc04a.247realmedia.com'?):
> Sep 24 09:37:45 iam named[1644]: lame server resolving 'oasc04a.247realmedia.com' (in 'oasc04a.247realmedia.com'?):

It's resolving it, but getting the answer in a bad way.

> Sep 24 09:43:14 iam named[1644]: unexpected RCODE (SERVFAIL) resolving '':

I can't resolve that, either.  There may not be an reverse lookup answer
to that ( address.

> Sep 24 09:58:04 iam ntpd[1919]: sendto( Invalid argument
> Sep 24 09:58:10 iam last message repeated 2 times
> Sep 24 10:05:50 iam ntpd[1919]: can't open /var/lib/ntp/drift.TEMP: Permission denied
> Sep 24 10:15:10 iam ntpd[1919]: sendto( Invalid argument
> Sep 24 10:32:15 iam last message repeated 3 times

Are you using your modem as your local DNS server?  Do you want to /
need to?

> when I type route is stalls a bit then I get this:
> Kernel IP routing table
> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
>     *        U     0      0        0 eth0
>     *          U     0      0        0 eth0
> default         UG    0      0        0 eth0

Looks normal enough.

> I don't recognize either.

Google up on link local, zeroconf, or bonjour (Apple's name for it).  If
there's no DHCP server to be found by a PC, it'll eventually try giving
itself a randomly chosen 168.254.x.y IP, and will also try to avoid
picking the same x and y values as something else on your local network.
It's for all "peer-to-peer" networking, without any servers.  

Even if your system hasn't used a link local address on one of its
interfaces, there always seems to be an entry preset for it in the
routing table, just in case.  In your case, I'd probably just ignore

You might want to play with the dig tool, it'll let you query different
name servers, and shows how long it took to get the answer.

e.g. "dig google.com" will query whatever name servers you've got
configured in your /etc/resolv.conf file.  "dig google.com
@" will query the name server at the address after the @
sign - in this case, one of google's master name servers).  You could
try querying the name server on your PC (, the one on your
router (, and your ISP's name servers.

(Currently running FC4, occasionally trying FC5.)

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