X-server reinstall

[Jim Cornette]

Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> Arne Chr. Jorgensen wrote:
>> A little background on my earlier post:
>>
>> Fedora is somewhat new to me, and it keeps changing all the time. It is
>> difficult keep track. Without the X-server, an ACPI message comes up,
>> screwing up my terminal.
> 
>> ( The cpu is an AMD Athlon, which doesn't have the device the
>> kernel seems to be looking for. And I think the problem came
>> after some FC6 updates )
>> Ever tried to do anything sensible when each second pair of characters
>> you enter, get broken up by error messages ? I simply didn't know
>> about the problem, as the Xserver did cover it up.
>>
> You really should look at your logs, or at least read the email from
> logwatch...
> 
>> "X" has been a problem over the years, especially with RH, as it
>> lacks the install option.  And this was the IMPORTANT subject I
>> wanted to pass on as an important feature that would make life
>> so much easier. I would like to post this request and suggestion
>> to the maintainers of the installation setup, but I am having
>> difficulties with even reading my email, so.. I wouldn't know
>> where to ship the note.
>>
> It lacks an install option? I could of sworn I had the option during
> install to install/setup X. I wonder why it is working? Or are you
> saying there should be an option to only install X when you run the
> installer? If so, Why?
>>                                 ---------------------     
>> Arthur Pemberton wrote:
>>> That is no where near being called  a crash. That's called removing
>>> your x server. You data and system are perfectly safe.
>>>
>> That is correct, but I have had some bad luck before, and I don't want
>> to end up in such disasters ever again. Fedora does base everything on the
>> graphical environment, and then it is even more IMPORTANT to have a user
>> friendly -reinstall X option.
>>
> yum groupinstall X
> 
>> Personally I would like it to include options as to initial startup,
>> runlevels, etc. Not every platform have a workable X-server and other
>> circumstances. The problem now, is that it is impossible to keep track
>> of the many changes, the growing number of applications. Not every host
>> has a connection to the internet. So you do depend on the install CDs
>> and rescue disks.  If you should happen to work on some X-application,
>> or perform testing?  Well, imo this situation should be addressed, and
>> it would be beneficial for everybody.   
>>
> You mean like the option of starting in the GUI mode in the standard
> install? Or are you talking about the options in the expert mode
> install? For adding packages later, there is the groupinstall
> options of yum. If you don't have a connection to the Internet, then
> Fedora is probably a bad choice for your distribution. There tent to
> be too many updates because of the type of distribution it is. But
> you can set up a local repository, (CDs/DVD's if necessary) or do a
> local install from yum.
> 
> It would probably help if you learned the tools provided by the
> distribution to do these things before complaining that there isn't
> a way to do them.
> 
> Also, remember that different distributions tend to be targeted for
> different groups. DO NOT expect every distribution to be right for
> everyone. If you have a limited Internet connection, then you
> probably should not be using Fedora. You will have a hard time
> keeping up with the updates. Yum also works better with a fast
> Internet connection. So while you can make Fedora work without an
> Internet connection, it is going to take extra work. This should be
> a factor in deciding on the distribution that is right for YOU.
> 
> It is more a matter of picking the correct tool for the job, rather
> then picking a tool, and then trying to use it for a job it was not
> designed to do.
> 
> Mikkel


As mentioned earlier the original posting had more opinions and the 
responders (myself included) elaborated on the other aspects more that 
emphasizing the solution.

To get X back:
yum groupinstall "X Window System"

To get a windows manager, (KDE, GNOME, ETC:) the below will give you 
gnome and its needed items again.
yum groupinstall "GNOME Desktop Environment"

Additional replies:

The idea for the rescue media is to install the GUI and Desktop manager 
to the OS if missing or damaged. It would be a great option to add 
options to the rescue disk to install on demand certain items from the 
installation media at will. I believe since the intended environment for 
a lot of programs are GUI dependent, it makes sense to add a feature for 
these sort of user or application problems to be remedied. An Request 
For Enhancement through bugzilla.redhat.com was suggested to propose the 
idea to the developers.

Jim


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