Feedback please

[jim tate]

Les Mikesell wrote:
> jim tate wrote:
>> Mike wrote:
>>> On Sat, 21 Apr 2007, jim tate wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have done a install of Kubuntu just to see how it work, I'm a 
>>>> straight Fedora user and no desire to move to Ubuntu,
>>>> I just want to see how it works as far as SU goes.
>>>> In ubuntu , can any user type in sudo -s and get root privileges ?
>>>> For Security reasons this distro scares me.
>>>> I teach Linux at locale libraries and wanted to get a feel for 
>>>> ubuntu before I can say yea or nay.
>>>> And I don't want to go threw a bunch of hassles to track down a 
>>>> Ubuntu forum just to ask one question about a distro
>>>> that I'm not going to permanently use.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Jim
>>>
>>> I believe sudo -s and sudo -i is limited to users in the admin 
>>> group. Look at the file /etc/sudoers on your Ubuntu box.  Also if I 
>>> recall correctly users can be added and removed from groups using 
>>> the gpasswd command.
>>>
>> But can any user perform those steps ?
>> If so this unsafe allowing users to install anything they want.
>> This is one of the main resones that Windows crashes so much, kids 
>> being able to install anything.
>
> The ability to sudo is, of course, restricted by the same config files 
> as it would be in every other distribution.  Ubuntu just uses a 
> convention of setting up the first user added as an admin user with 
> the ability to run anything via sudo with only his own password so it 
> isn't necessary to run as root.  If you don't like it, you'll probably
> sudo su - root
> anyway...
>
Well from what you guys have said, I guess I will sleep easy at night 
knowing that Ubuntu has not really killed the security in Linux.
I have to admit this Ubuntu-7 is a easy install , but I still feel more 
secure with Fedora.
Thing that blew my mind was Firefox is not a default install. But it was 
easy to install.
Many people complain that Fedora is bloatware, I can say extra apps are 
better than not enough Apps, if your a new user how long would it take 
to realize that the Konqueror is not as good as Firefox, if Firefox 
wasn't installed
 From what I can see is that a new user in Ubuntu is going to have to 
spend more time on forums and asking
question about Apps he does not know about, because their not installed 
(bloatware)
Thanks guys for your help.

Jim


Jim