System freezing frequently
Robin Laing
Robin.Laing at drdc-rddc.gc.ca
Tue Aug 7 15:55:14 UTC 2007
Chris Kurecka wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've been running Fedora since the project began (and Red Hat before
> it), but all of a sudden for the past month or two, my system has been
> freezing. It seems to be more likely to happen if it has recently
> happened, so if my PC is on for 6 hours without issue and then
> freezes, it might freeze again 30 minutes later. This is on Fedora 7,
> and I don't think it happened in the test releases, but can't be
> completely sure.
>
> The main symptom is that everything becomes unresponsive. Both the
> mouse and keyboard fail to work (so I can't Ctrl-Alt-Backspace or
> Ctrl-Alt-F1, etc.), and the mouse doesn't do anything. Often (but I
> don't think it happens every time), the Caps Lock and Scroll Lock
> lights start blinking rapidly once the system is frozen.
>
> I'm running an Athlon 64 X2 3800+ and GeForce 7300GS. I'm using the
> regular x86 version of the distro rather than the x86_64 build at the
> moment, but I've gone back and forth between them over the years and
> don't see why that should be the issue. I first noticed this with the
> "nvidia" video driver and compiz, so I disabled compiz. The freezing
> persisted, so I then further switched to the main "nv" driver. The
> freezing is continuing to occur.
>
> I found an obscure bug mentioned online that some people have with
> AMD's Cool & Quiet (or something like that) for power management, so I
> tried disabling that in the BIOS, but that also did not fix things.
>
> For what it's worth, the issue also happens in Ubuntu 07.04 on a
> different partition, though I use that much more rarely. I have the
> GNOME System Monitor applet in my panel, and it looks like CPU0 goes
> to near 100% when the system is frozen, and CPU1 is maybe 20-50%. The
> hard disk light also seems to be blinking rapidly.
>
> My inclination is to think that it's something related to the kernel,
> since it seems to have to do with the CPU spiking, but I have no idea.
> I've gotten my PC to freeze when using Firefox, Evolution, Pidgin, or
> just Nautilus. It doesn't seem to matter what I'm doing at the time.
> I don't think it's a hardware issue, but I can't be sure.
>
> I would greatly appreciate any help or suggestions. I'm not sure why
> this has started all of a sudden.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris Kurecka
>
As you are running a Nvidia card, you are having similar problems to me
and many others according to the nvidia bug site. Forget about filing a
Fedora bug due to the nvidia driver.
If you can ssh into your machine, you will most likely find Xorg running
at close to 100%. No messages will show up in the xorg.log or messages
about this as there is nothing really wrong to report. I have gone
through this for ages. I have not had a total freeze with the latest
kernels which is good.
I found that I can push the xorg to a high percentage rage but no
freezing using the nv driver and running a video in mplayer (from CLI)
while mplayer stays quite low.
I have found reports of similar issues with other video cards and
drivers, even the open source drivers.
Just this morning I read about a patch to the nvidia driver for the .23
kernel and some have reported that if they compile a kernel without cfq,
all lockups and xorg issues disappear.
Not what you wanted to hear but it points in the right direction. There
was another post I read this morning about changing the windows manager
to metacity.
Yes it is frustrating and it is hard to find the problem. I have tried
to trace it down with strace the best I can with my limited knowledge on
debugging faults.
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