Users and Groups

Ric Moore wayward4now at gmail.com
Mon Dec 10 04:43:08 UTC 2007


On Fri, 2007-12-07 at 15:21 -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote:

> but there's a *reason* it's done this way, karl.  typically, when you
> start adding new users, you're not going to add them to the system
> groups.  what you'd normally do is first create some new groups like,
> say, "sales", "marketing", "helpdesk" and so on.  try it -- create a
> new group called "sales".  you'll notice that it shows up in the list
> when you ask to see the list of current groups.
> 
> now when you create new users, you can choose to add them to your new
> (non-system) groups.  that's the way it's *supposed* to work.  you're
> not supposed to commonly add users to the *system* groups -- that's
> why those groups are, by default, not displayed.  if, by chance, you
> really *need* to do that, it's still available.  but that's not
> displayed by default because it's not encouraged behaviour, that's
> all.  you generally need a really good reason to add a user to a
> system group.

Much better, makes sense, I didn't know that. I tried the add user/group
app and it only showed me my login. So, I poked around, found
preferences and unchecked groups and voila! Then everything was
displayed. Nifty. Then I wondered why it wasn't untagged by default, but
your post is concise and answers that question. I didn't know the
reasoning behind not displaying the full user/group by default and I've
been at this since my 486 with 16 megs of memory with slackware loaded
from floppies. But what you just replied with makes plenty of sense,
especially since we're not coding html with pico anymore. Newbies really
need it all off by default. Thanks, Ric
  
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