Java problem

[Kam Leo]

On Dec 29, 2007 8:39 PM, Craig White <craigwhite at azapple.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 2007-12-29 at 20:20 -0800, Kam Leo wrote:
> > On Dec 29, 2007 7:24 PM, David Boles <dgboles at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > Kam Leo wrote:
> > > > On Dec 29, 2007 2:48 PM, David Boles <dgboles at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Neither openSuSE nor Fedora are end-all products. Both distributions
> > > > make decent servers. However, neither is ready to replace Microsoft's
> > > > Windows OS and the applications for that OS. Some day perhaps; just
> > > > not today.
> > >
> > >
> > > I am not familiar openSuSE. But I thought that, from what I have read,
> > > that openSuSE was a desktop oriented type distribution.
> >
> > Novell Corporation is the principle sponsor of openSUSE. openSUSE has
> > an enterprise version with full support.
> ----
> I am not knowledgeable here but what I see on
> http://en.opensuse.org/Welcome_to_openSUSE.org
> says "openSUSE also provides the base for Novell's award-winning SUSE
> Linux Enterprise products" which has an entirely different meaning. I
> suspect you are being imprecise.

Perhaps.Novell's offerings: http://www.novell.com/linux/

> ----
> > Says whom? Fedora is a test bed for Red Hat RHEL.
> ----
> I'd be interested to see what evidence you offer for this besides just a
> gut feeling. I've seen similar comments but they seem to be spouted by
> people who simply don't know anything empirically. I haven't seen that
> comment made by anyone from Red Hat but perhaps you have and can point
> out a link to me.

Check sponsorship for Fedora. Red Hat tried to make Fedora a
stand-a-lone, non-profit, entity and failed.

> ----
> >  Samba, apache, Open
> > Office, Gnome, and KDE are just applications running on top of the
> > latest version of the Linux OS. Which packages you install determines
> > whether your machine is a server, a desktop, or a hybrid.
> ----
> yes, but they aren't necessarily well tested because they tend to be
> more bleeding edge

Any distribution using the 2.6 kernel is more bleeding edge than one
running the 2.4 based kernel.

> ----
> > > I see no problem, your choice of course, how many distributions you wish
> > > to run. I would not think, if it was me, that I would run a desktop
> > > distribution as a true server.
> > >
> > > May I ask why you do that? When there are several, many, good server
> > > oriented distributions, run desktop oriented distributions as servers?
> >
> > Please tell me how the kernel, Apache, and Samba packages in the other
> > server distributions are any better than the ones provided with
> > Fedora.
> ----
> I think that given your knowledge level, you already know the issues
> anyway and have concluded that for your purposes, you will choose
> something that is newer over that which is considered more stable and
> known.

If I were using a server in a production environment I would use
something like BSD or RHEL My usage is strictly in a
testing/evaluation environment and I'm free to try whatever I like.

> Given SuSE's (Novell) acknowledgment of Microsoft patents contained in
> their 'deal', I would never install SuSE - but hey, that's just me.
>
> Craig
>
>
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