OT: can antennas for wireless Internet cause damage to health? <OT as hell>

[Ric Moore]

On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 03:03 -0800, jdow wrote:
> From: "Norm" <maillist at sios.ca>
> > jdow wrote:
> >> From: "Norm" <maillist at sios.ca>
> >>
> >>> Alan wrote:
> >>>>> In the building where I live, the building administration is intending
> >>>>> to install at its top an antenna for irradiating the signal for
> >>>>> wireless Internet users. Can those antennas interfere with the health
> >>>>> of the people living in the building?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> If you climb onto the roof and eat it, then it might be bad for you.
> >>>>
> >>>> If you wanted a more serious answer then try a more relevant list. Some
> >>>> keywords that might help you are "ERP", "SAR", "NCRPM" and "FCC"
> >>>>
> >>>> Alan
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> Having had a massive brain tumour removed I am a bit sensitive to off
> >>> the cuff ridicule of someone asking such a question.  Despite the cries
> >>> of many in the radio and near radio industry and others there is
> >>> considerable empirical evidence that there is a correlation between
> >>> brain tumours and emf in general.  Which side one lands on is dependent
> >>> on personal views.  The industry studies showing no problem should be
> >>> treated with suspicion.  We all know of industries such as the tobacco
> >>> industry that for years claimed their products were not harmful.
> >>> The effect of one wireless antenna on its own will probably not harm
> >>> most healthy people but, one more added to the mix may cause an emf
> >>> overload on someone.
> >>> In simple terms no one can say with assurance  the new antenna will or
> >>> will not cause a problem.
> >>
> >> Make that anecdotal evidence. Very large studies have not turned up a
> >> significant correlation between cell phone usage and tumors. The amount
> >> of energy radiated by wireless cards is less than cell phones.
> >>
> >> {^_^}
> >>
> > The choice of the word empirical was intentional. Yes there are studies 
> > pointing the other way on the subject but there are also  studies from 
> > reputable scientist that indicate a reason for concern. One concern is 
> > frequencies discussed are in the same area as the frequency of DNA. 
> > Anything that interferes with DNA should be viewed with suspicion.
> > I feel that the words of Dr Wagner at the University of Integrated Science 
> > California in
> > "March 2006
> > *Assessing the Harmful Effects of Manmade Electromagnetic and 
> > Extremely-Low Frequency Fields
> > *By Professor David Wagner
> > .....
> > As alluded to previously, within the context of human history, the advent 
> > of electricity is a relatively new development, and it is blatantly 
> > obvious that the full implications of this technological innovation have 
> > not yet been determined, particularly with regard to the effects of ELF 
> > and EMF exposure upon biological systems. However, taken as a whole, the 
> > wide array of correlative evidence that is available in the extant 
> > published research literature on the subject leave little doubt that these 
> > forces initiate or exacerbate a number of disadvantageous biological 
> > responses in humans and animals, many of which, like cancer, are strongly 
> > linked with negative health outcomes."
> > Are sufficient to at least suggest caution when dealing with emf.
> > Turning back the clock with respect to emf is impractical but caution as 
> > we move forward is prudent.
> 
> University of WHAT? As best I can tell from their web page they are an
> Internet diploma mill. "Distant learning" indeed... Sheesh. You take his
> bullshit for fact and disregard the large studies out there? His babble
> about "frequency of DNA" didn't clue you in to his con? Sheesh!
> 
> Hey, guys, we're missing a chance here. We could REALLY mess with this
> Norm geek's mind. It'd be fun, I bet. Make him paranoid to get out of
> his aluminum foil suit then tell him that there's no way he can wear
> it and stay safe because it'll leak at the seams. The best he can do
> is live in as good a solid copper Faraday cage as he can afford.

Which is why I proposed the anti-abduction cap. If it's a worry, take
responsible initiatives. I sit about a foot from a 21 inch CRT Dell
monitor. I have macular degeneration in my left eye, so I need the
larger font that I can use. I also am aware that it might pose a health
risk. I DECIDED to use this monster anyway. That's on me. If I was
worried that I might spawn tumors I'd wear the cap myself. 

Now, let's just turn this thread into personal health complaints and
rants. I have a pretty much smashed up left leg from a car accident
almost 40 years ago... blah blah... bad cars, fault of construction,
should have had a 5 point restraining belt, roll cage, all the things
that engineers could/should have designed into automobiles in the 60's,
blah blah. It was the luck of the draw that this guy pulled out onto a
65mpg two lane country road when your's truly liked pushing the speed
limit and he didn't see the contrail of my dust like a B52 flying low. 

I'm sorry that Norm had a brain tumor. I'm sorry that the other guy
wasn't driving a Subaro. I'd still be running track and he would've been
mashed into pulp and dead. Or, maybe it's better he's lived to be with
his family with only a busted sternum and me with only a broken leg. It
kept me out of Vietnam. Just maybe there is a blessing in it for Norm
that he's still alive to tell about it. Ed, the humor in the situation
is that the OP has the choice of dealing with the relay tower, moving,
or wearing the helmet and building a solid copper Faraday cage to dwell
within. Decisions, no one can make them for you.  

That's life in the 21st century. (or is this the 22nd?) You can either
laugh or wear the horsehair shirt, as the Good Lord decided when to
bring you into this world and when he decides to take you out of it,
you're a goner. Decisions is what is between the two. :) Ric 
  
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