Slightly OT: bad rap for Fedora, and realistic effects

[Norm]

Dotan Cohen wrote:
> On 24/02/07, Rahul Sundaram <sundaram at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>>   The whole idea of spins is that we need to continue serving completely
>> conflicting requirements. What would we do with all the end users who
>> need to have all the packages in the media since they dont have a good
>> network access to pull packages off a repository? The number of CD's is
>> by no means the final criteria for selction. This is the reason there is
>> a broad range of choice provided now right from a single installable
>> live cd to a complete DVD set with 2 or 3 DVD's depending on the
>> architecture. Plus, you get the tools to produce your own live cd or
>> spin in a trivial fashion.
>>
>> Rahul
>>
>
> In an ideal world the install medium would not be a factor in
> selecting a Linux distro, I agree. However, it does have veto power
> and when I've got a hour to download, my chances of getting Kubuntu
> intact at the end of that hour are much better than getting Fedora.
> Furthermore, I have to burn those disks, and I can do one disk in five
> minutes with no babysitting, but burning five disks require that I
> babysit the machine for half an hour. Not a good impression to make on
> someone who I'm installing thier first Linux distro for.
>
> Shall I continue with the amount of problems that a 5 disk
> installation makes? Thats 5 disks to check before an install. That's
> five times the chance that a disk will get scratching in handling.
> Also, here Fedora competes with cracked versions of Windows with
> Office (and probably spyware) preinstalled. Sad, but a fact. Nobody
> has morals, and nobody thinks that they are stealing. Fedora has to
> compete with a one-disk install of Windows XP, that can be installed
> in an hour with no babysitting. Fedora installs require one to switch
> disk three or four times.
>
> For my own use, I use Fedora. But there are enough hurdles to overcome
> before one even thinks about installing Linux instead of Windows.
> Making them download, burn, and check 5 disks is a very strong
> turnoff. Not to mention all the babysitting that disk-swapping
> requires.
>
> Dotan Cohen
>
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For me the ideal Fedora distro(s) would be a 1 live disk for both server 
and a desktop version.  The ability as we have now to add individual 
packages we feel the need for. And the additional 3 to 5 disks we have 
now could be bundled packages  such as a graphics add on to either of 
the of the main distros.  Yes I know graphics on a server does not make 
a lot of sense.  Other packages could be a security bundle, sql bundle etc.