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Re: How can I get rid of beagle??



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Charles Tuckey wrote:
> On 1/10/07, Gene Heskett <gene heskett verizon net> wrote:
>> On Wednesday 10 January 2007 04:32, Boris Glawe wrote:
>> >Gene Heskett schrieb:
>> >> On Tuesday 09 January 2007 14:52, Boris Glawe wrote:
>>
>> And I put this back in the list.
>>
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> I don't like beagle, since I don't need it and it eats 50% of my
>> >>> system resources. The CPU usage is regularly at 100% for example (has
>> >>> beagle ever heard something about a nice value??), because beagle
>> >>> runs pdftotext on pdf files, which I haven't touched for years.
>> >>>
>> >>> greets Boris
>> >>
>> >> Call up a session of yumex as root, and have yum remove it?  ISTR
>> >> there were 3 items to remove.  But before it removed beagle-gui, I
>> >> tried to get it to run and it, if it existed at all, wasn't in the
>> >> $PATH, so I removed them.
>> >
>> >That's what I did (actually I'm preferring yum at the terminal)!
>> >The problem remains: If beagle is installed it's hardly possible to
>> >disable it! Though a user disables beagle (with the configuration GUI),
>> >it will be reenabled a few system reboots later. I don't know the reason
>> >of how beagle can suddenly be active after having disabled it. Maybe
>> >it's because of some system updates, that overwrite my configuration,
>> >maybe it has  some other reasons.
>> >
>> >And in addition: An unexperienced user does not find out, that he/she is
>> >working with something called "beagle" at all. Neither the configuration
>> >GUI nor any search tools show me, that beagle does the searching job.
>> >The CPU usage is also caused by other tools (pdftotext, for example) and
>> >not by beagle itself. To find out, that it's beagle who i's to blame,
>> >requires a lot of knowledge. A task like "which of my directories
>> >consumes more then 100MB of space" cannot be easily done by beginners.
>> >Also questions like "which process has started pdftotext", can only be
>> >asked, if you know at all, that there's something like a process
>> >hierarchy in unix. Beagle is definitely addressed to unexperienced
>> > users.
>> >
>> >Fedora's acceptance suffers from tools like beagle, as it makes the
>> >system slow and and can hardly be identified as the reason for the
>> >performance loss.
>> >
>> >The confusion is perfect, if beagle suddenly running, though it was
>> >explicitly disabled before!!
>> >
>> >> Let us know please when this thing is ready for prime time, and what
>> >> exactly its supposed to do for us when it runs.
>> >
>> >Well, searching with beagle is extremely fast and saves a lot of system
>> >resources  - at the cost, that I haven't left any system resources in
>> >the time when I don't  search things on my desktop :-)
>> >
>> >greets Boris
>>
>> Sorry, to me its a waste of time and electricity to have it on a system.
>> On this FC6 system, and let me repeat this, there is no beagle related
>> option anywhere in the menu's that is capable of showing so much as a
>> blank open windowframe.
>>
>> The most obvious thingy was 'kerry beagle' right on the main menu, which
>> was a total no-op, no launch feedback adjacent to the mouse cursor,
>> nothing.
>>
>> There was another entry someplace, a 'beagle configuration' I believe,
>> that did cause the cursor to dance for the usual 30 second timeout, but
>> in the end did nothing, and the find selection on the menu takes a good
>> 20 seconds to open a screen, but then when a search term is entered that
>> you know is existant, eventually comes back empty.  Does this use a
>> database beagle has built?  In which case it was defective I assume.
>>
>> The worst part is that when I had removed all traces of it I could find
>> with yumex's search pattern set to 'beagle', then I had to go through the
>> menu's by hand and remove those entries.  The rpm -e should have taken
>> care of that IMO.
>>
>> Now if they come up with an update that actually does something
>> worthwhile, I might put it back in.
>>
>> -- 
>> Cheers, Gene
>> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
>>  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
>> -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
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>> message by Gene Heskett are:
>> Copyright 2007 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.
>>
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> 
> Like most of the rest of you who replied to this thread I was
> wondering what Beagle did as well. It was annoying me but hadn't got
> so bad that I had removed it. I had a vague idea that it could search
> my harddrive for me but I use 'locate' for that.
> 
> Based on Matthew Saltzman's advice I looked it up at Places->Search.
> And, hey!, it's not that bad. It finds search terms within documents
> which can be extremely handy. It's a lot easier than trying to use
> 'find' and 'grep' for that job. As well there are preferences where
> you can control (somewhat) how beagle behaves when it does its
> indexing.
> 
> Of course, if it's running on tilt and thrashing your machine then I
> don't suppose this functionality is going to make you feel better
> about it....
> 
> charlie
> 
I also find it much better than history for finding that web page I was
looking for... Now if I could get it to index Thunderbird instead of
Evolution.. but that's another E-Mail

Scott
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