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Re: How NSA access was built into Windows



On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 22:57:37 -0500
Lyvim Xaphir <knightmerc yahoo com> wrote:

> On Tue, 2007-01-16 at 13:47 +1030, Tim wrote:
> > Ralf Corsepius:
> > >>> One thing I can tell for sure: There is still a noticeable group
> > >>> of Linux users in Europe, for whom this incident and the NSA's
> > >>> involvement into SELinux is an argument for "not choosing"
> > >>> Fedora.
> > 
> > Claude Jones
> > >> I'm not surprised, and I have heard that myself - in fact, that
> > >> comes up quite frequently in other forums and lists - I just
> > >> haven't seen much discussion of it here...
> > 
> > Anne Wilson:
> > > That reads as though Fedora is the only one employing SELinux.
> > > I'm sure that's not so, and I've definitely seen it proposed in
> > > magazines as the way forward that will become a de facto standard.
> > 
> > Taking the opposite line of attack, it is possible to completely
> > remove it from a Linux installation, isn't it?
> > 
> > 
> 
> Good question.  I'd like to find out about that myself.

Hello, Everyone
I don't know if this is a full answer to the above question, but I
thought that I'd try running "yum remove *selinux*" just for fun.  See
the result at: http://www.afolkey2.net/Projects/selinux.txt

For the impatient, the file referred to above says that I would need to
remove 979 RPM's:

> Transaction Summary
> =============================================================================
> Install      0 Package(s)         
> Update       0 Package(s)         
> Remove     979 Package(s)

Here is the output of rpm -qa on my system:
http://www.afolkey2.net/Projects/rpm.txt

It shows that 1,617 RPM's are installed on my system.  So, if I would
remove all *selinux* packages, I would have 638 RPM's left.
Unfortunately, I would have no kernel:
kernel                  i686       2.6.18-1.2868.fc6  installed          44 M
kernel                  i686       2.6.18-1.2869.fc6  installed          44 M
kernel                  i586       2.6.18-1.2849.fc6  installed          43 M
kernel-devel            i686       2.6.18-1.2868.fc6  installed          14 M
kernel-devel            i586       2.6.18-1.2798.fc6  installed          14 M
kernel-devel            i686       2.6.18-1.2869.fc6  installed          14 M
kernel-devel            i586       2.6.18-1.2849.fc6  installed          14 M

I am not an expert.  I only submit this for the experts to interpret.

Steven P. Ulrick

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