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On Friday 26 January 2007 13:40, Dmitriy Kropivnitskiy wrote:
>Gene Heskett wrote:
>> The only reason its not common is that heyu, due to the original
>> authors license,
>I am sorry, I don't think you understood me correctly. I was implying
> that any x10 controller software is not a common computer usage. And
> this one is also not open. Turning Christmas lights on and off from
> your computer is no an example of common usage.
>> Ok, then tell me how to gain access to the ieee1394 facilities kino
>> needs as a normal user?  With selinux running in enforcing mode, no
>> way Jose. It cannot talk to the camera.
>I don't have the interface for that since I don't do much video editing.
> But I would guess that audit2allow would give you an exact set of rules
> to add to your local policy. Or setroubleshoot for that matter.
>> I have.  REAL information seems to be sealed up in the brains of the
>> authors, never to be made public for 'security reasons'.
>Where did you get that "security reasons" crap? I am not one of the
> authors and I have no trouble running systems with selinux. All the
> information including the source is there to be read and learned from.

Why did you snip the rest of my comment about the manpages?  Or was that 
in a subsequent message since this seems to be bouncing back and forth 
between private mail and the list?  I don't know and this has gone on 
long enough with nothing but shouting and handwaving which is bound to 
upset the rest of the readers of this list.

I stated precisely what was wrong with those manpages and I see no reason 
not to say it out loud.  Docs don't get fixed if we are not allowed to 
fault them and those are damned sure faulty.

To be precise, since this is going back to the list now, I said words to 
the effect of "where are the definitions of all the UPPERCASE named 
variables used within the -this and -that options"

This is in reference to the chcon manpage folks, but they (selinux related 
manpages) are all equally guilty of hiding the information that would 
make them usable without all this absolutely useless badmouthing of 
selinux in public.

They (the definitions of those vars shown in UPPERCASE) don't exist in 
those manpages and no amount of ignoring that fact is ever going to make 
it right.

So enough already, fix the selinux related manpages so WE, the users, can 
fix our own stumbles.  It really, really is that simple.

As for your comment re the src, I turned on a few fedora src links in my 
yum.repos.d and never did find the srcs for selinux.  Just one of the 
many reasons I came to the conclusion that I shouldn't be running 
something that is to me, just another frustration creating hassle.

Cheers, Gene
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