Can Linux beat XP in homes yet or NOT?
Srikanth Konjarla
srikanth.konjarla at gmail.com
Sat Jul 14 05:48:01 UTC 2007
Ashley Pritchard wrote:
> "I have looked at Dell's initiative with
> Ubuntu Linux but i guess a user would have to contact Ubuntu forums for
> any kind of support"
> Yes Dell is supplying OS support for Dell systems sold w/ Ubuntu Linux
> under their warranty service.
>
> Will Linux ever be on the desktop mainstream? NO it will never be on the
> desktop because the open source community is not unified enough to
> accomplish this. There is not standardized distribution that will work
> ...ie w/the ability to play DVDs, MP3s etc out of the box (even
> individual users will argue just over the pettiest of commands such as
> how to su to root). The conflicts between DMC, Patton laws & GPL & no
> one willing to compromise on either side of the issue continues to make
> linux a pain in the rear to install & configure. Even though
> incorporating multimedia support to work in the distribution may be in
> conflict with the philosophy of "free" (as in free speech) software not
> incorporating multimedia support limits my freedom to listen to music &
> watch movies on the system with the OS of my choice. You can install F7
> in an afternoon & then spend the next 4-5 months configuring & trying to
> figure out how to get things to work. Just to have a usable system for
> multimedia & simple browsing is complicated for the lack of flash & java
> support (I still have not gotten java to work on my system & I installed
> F7 almost 2mo ago). I had to edit all of the GDM themes to have Welsh
> language support & that took the better part of 2 days to sift through
> all of the xml files. I am still configuring my system but almost have
> to where I like but by then they will have a new version out & the cycle
> will start again.
This is where i believe hardware vendors can add significant value as
users are going to *pay* for a desktop/laptop. Hardware vendors can
easily include support for multimedia out of the box.
>
> No linux will never win over Windows for the desktop on PCs. If you want
> a system with an open source OS get a MAC which is basically Free BSD.
Mac is a overly hyped and priced software/hardware. Again, the same
theory applies here. Apple takes the work from open source and builds
into its hardware and charges a fortune to users with lots of flashy things.
Srikanth
>
> On 7/13/07, * Srikanth Konjarla* <srikanth.konjarla at gmail.com
> <mailto:srikanth.konjarla at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
>
> Les Mikesell wrote:
> > Srikanth Konjarla wrote:
> >> Interesting subject as always. To me, yes Linux beats XP/Vista etc.
> >> Last time i have run windowZe for business was NT4 (i go to
> customers)
> >> since then i have started running Linux on laptop (started with
> RH7.0,
> >> no dual boot either).
> >>
> >> But, for many out there it may not beat XP because there is no
> vendor
> >> stands behind "Linux" to support. Also, Linux has become very
> general
> >> term and i guess these days we gotta be specific about a Linux
> >> distribution (F7, Ubuntu, SuSE etc). If there is a vendor who is
> ready
> >> to pre install Linux (any distro) and extend it to full
> supportability
> >> while providing all the drivers (video, wireless specifically)
> then it
> >> can beat any OS (in my opinion OS X also).
> >>
> >> The question, who is gonna do that.
> >
> > Maybe these are US-only links, but they are to PCs with RedHat and
> > Ubuntu factory installed.
> >
> >
> http://www.dell.com/content/products/features.aspx/precn_n?c=us&cs=04&l=en&s=bsd&redirect=1
> <http://www.dell.com/content/products/features.aspx/precn_n?c=us&cs=04&l=en&s=bsd&redirect=1>
> >
> >
> http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/linux_3x?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
> <http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/linux_3x?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs>
> Sun,IBM,HP also shipping RH,SUSE based Linux servers for quite a while.
> But, on the desktop side of the Linux, there is no vendor who can
> "extend" a supportable Linux. I have looked at Dell's initiative with
> Ubuntu Linux but i guess a user would have to contact Ubuntu forums for
> any kind of support. Also, Dell is not known to contributing any code
> that might augment the functionality of Linux or works better on their
> hardware with complete support of hardware. But, i guess it is a good
> start from Dell.
>
> Most of the hardware vendors have a mailing list that is specific to
> Linux but when it comes to actual support they contribute nothing
> (specially Toshiba). This need to change for a big push into
> desktop/laptop market.
>
> Srikanth
> >
> >
> >
> > But, installing your own is trivial if the hardware is recognized
> by the
> > installer.
> >
>
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