Fedora-7 rant #3: Sound
skunkworx at verizon.net
Sat Jun 16 16:00:41 UTC 2007
Timothy Murphy wrote:
> I'm running F-7 with KDE,
Non-default install of a non-RedHat, non-Fedora project.
> and I'm trying to get Skype working.
Non-default install of a proprietary non-RedHat, non-Fedora application.
> The sound system seems designed for sound engineers,
> not ordinary mortals.
The huge mess of linux sound infrastructure is shared across linux
flavors and not specific to RedHat or Fedora.
KDE added a large sound infrastructure too at some point.
For example www.alsa-project.org supports many distros. Perhaps your
comments directed there could help them prioritize things.
> What on earth do all these symbols in KMix mean?
> (I've left clicked on the loudspeaker icon in my panel,
> and clicked on Mixer.)
> Whoever designed the sound GUI seemed to have a love affair with triangles.
> What on earth do these half-filled in triangles mean?
> And why do they have a smaller triangle beside them pointing to the right?
> Why am I given no hint of their meaning when I hover over them?
These are KDE apps right? Not designed by RedHat or Fedora, but offered
as an alternative to gnome.
This is starting to sound like a KDE,ALSA,Skype rant...all things not
developed by RH or Fedora.
> And why does input have what looks like headphones as icon?
I think KDE extras are supported through their SIG...maybe they could
help with your design questions. Also kde.org
> When I try the CLI command "alsamixer" instead
> I get 19 (yes, 19) controls,
> none of them properly labelled.
> I see one called Mic, set to 0.
> It isn't at all obvious how to change this, or any, setting,
> but I go to the Mic icon with the right arrow key,
> and then use the up arrow to go from 0 to 81.
> Was that a good idea?
Same here...see above. KDE is a third party/extras package set offered
as an alternative, not designed or implemented by RedHat or Fedora, AFAIK.
> I cannot tell, as I have no idea how to test the result.
> Is there a simple introduction to Fedora sound somewhere?
> When I get a new mobile phone, I take it out of the box,
> put in a SIM card and it works.
> There aren't 19 switches to adjust.
> I bought a DVD player yesterday.
> I connect it to my TV with a Scart connector,
> switch on and put in a DVD.
> I am asked one question - do I want to play the DVD?
> I answer Yes, and it plays.
Regarding your DVD player and phone :
2) designed and implemented by a worldwide network of people, often in
their spare time?
3) released on a 6-month development cycle?
4) have all the source code available?
F7 does have a few regressions from what I can see. There are also a lot
of great things.
The desktop and user switching in gnome, the livecd-tools...I am looking
forward to the updates that will fix a lot of issues over the next few
One thing Linux people like is being able to read about a new linux
feature on the web, then use it right away--whether it's a cool app or
service or whatever. Fedora offers that, at the price of some instability.
Note : I am just another end user with no affiliation to RedHat or
Fedora...please don't be frustrated with them over my post if it rubs
you the wrong way!
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