tons of spam

Todd Zullinger tmz at
Tue Jun 19 16:00:12 UTC 2007

Tim wrote:
>>> Making it harder for robots to subscribe themselves.
>>> Not supplying lists of members on demand.
>>> Munging e-mail addresses written in message bodies.
>>> Removing personal addresses from to, CC, reply-to, and from headers.
> The first two points are things that many e-mail lists should do by
> default.  The first even one reduces its workload.  The second one
> is not the default action of this mailing list.  You have to log in
> and set an option to keep your e-mail address from being supplied on
> demand.  List-admins are the only ones that need to be able to grab
> a list of members.

Currently, only list administrators can get the members for this list.
See the text at the bottom of the listinfo page:

fedora-list Subscribers
(The subscribers list is only available to the list administrator.)

If you can get the member list without knowing an admin password, then
you've found a hole in Mailman or in the setup of the list
server. :)

Regarding the first point, you do have to reply with a confirmation
string that is emailed to you.  So you have to provide a valid address
to get subscribed.  That's not fool proof, but it should dissuade most
bots from subscribing.

Todd        OpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL:
Despite the high cost of living, it remains a popular item.

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