Volume Control use

[Karl Larsen]

David Boles wrote:
> on 6/22/2007 5:04 AM, Karl Larsen wrote:
>   
>> David Boles wrote:
>>     
>>> on 6/21/2007 7:23 PM, Tim wrote:
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 12:59 -0600, Karl Larsen wrote:
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>>     If you have either F7 or F6 with all the updates you will have a 
>>>>> Volume Control that is broken. When you click it up if your in the Alsa 
>>>>> mixer mode you on the right side a Microphone listed on the Playback 
>>>>> tab. This is wrong and if you look at the device below the Mike it shows 
>>>>> a speaker!
>>>>>
>>>>>     To use this bad system first turn up the Master and Master Mono to 
>>>>> the top and set Mike to the top. Now click File and select the TriTech 
>>>>> OSS Mixer. 
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> Firstly, that "TriTech" bit only refers to your hardware.  People with
>>>> different sound hardware will see something different.
>>>>
>>>> Second, make a damn bugzilla report.  We've all heard the same story
>>>> from you several times, this week.  We know about it by now, you're not
>>>> doing anything constructive about it.
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> Karl - Please read this and listen. I am not writing this to be mean or
>>> insulting in any way.
>>>
>>> I have had FC-3, FC-4, FC-5, FC6, and FC-7 all installed one after the
>>> other. At the same time I have always had rawhide (the development branch
>>> of Fedora) installed too.  And my mixers/volume controls have all worked
>>> just fine.
>>>
>>> So I really think that your problems are either your hardware or Pebkac.
>>> Really. And if I had to bet I would bet on Pebkac.
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>>     Hi and first I have no idea what Pebkac is. I will try the man 
>> pages. Second, the problem is NOT my hardware. This same hardware works 
>> just fine if you don't upgrade the gstream software on FC6.
>>
>>     Finally it is not just my problem. There have been many on this list 
>> say they see the same thing on F7. What your complaining about was an 
>> effort I made to tell those using the Volume Control how to do it. And 
>> yes most people have just one sound card. That being said how I wonder 
>> do you adjust the mike gain?
>>
>> Karl
>>
>>     
>
> Pebkac - _p_roblem _e_xists _b_etween _k_eyboard _a_nd _c_omputer.  ;-)
>
> It means that you don't know, don't understand, or both, what you are
> doing. Which can be dangerous to your installation. You are using what is
> called the 'shotgun' method. What does that mean? Think about using a
> shotgun to try to kill a single housefly buzzing around your living room.
>
> I can understand you frustrations. Truly.
>
> And Gnome-Volume-Control, as you have been told by several people, has
> absolutely nothing to do with audio volume. What does that mean? that you
> are trying to solve your problem but twiddling with the wrong package.
>
> From what you are describing you are looking at a KDE GUI audio mixer
> application. And that I can not help you with because I do not use KDE.
>   
    David. In several cases I have called it the Gnome Volume Control. I 
have today filed a bug. We do not need to beat this old horse again. It 
is being worked on.

Karl