Volume Control use

[Karl Larsen]

David Boles wrote:
> on 6/22/2007 1:29 PM, Karl Larsen wrote:
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>> David Boles wrote:
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>>> on 6/22/2007 5:04 AM, Karl Larsen wrote:
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>>>> David Boles wrote:
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>>>>> on 6/21/2007 7:23 PM, Tim wrote:
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>>>>>> On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 12:59 -0600, Karl Larsen wrote:
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>>>>>>>     If you have either F7 or F6 with all the updates you will have a 
>>>>>>> Volume Control that is broken. When you click it up if your in the Alsa 
>>>>>>> mixer mode you on the right side a Microphone listed on the Playback 
>>>>>>> tab. This is wrong and if you look at the device below the Mike it shows 
>>>>>>> a speaker!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     To use this bad system first turn up the Master and Master Mono to 
>>>>>>> the top and set Mike to the top. Now click File and select the TriTech 
>>>>>>> OSS Mixer. 
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>>>>>> Firstly, that "TriTech" bit only refers to your hardware.  People with
>>>>>> different sound hardware will see something different.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Second, make a damn bugzilla report.  We've all heard the same story
>>>>>> from you several times, this week.  We know about it by now, you're not
>>>>>> doing anything constructive about it.
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>>>>> Karl - Please read this and listen. I am not writing this to be mean or
>>>>> insulting in any way.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have had FC-3, FC-4, FC-5, FC6, and FC-7 all installed one after the
>>>>> other. At the same time I have always had rawhide (the development branch
>>>>> of Fedora) installed too.  And my mixers/volume controls have all worked
>>>>> just fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I really think that your problems are either your hardware or Pebkac.
>>>>> Really. And if I had to bet I would bet on Pebkac.
>>>>>
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>>>>     Hi and first I have no idea what Pebkac is. I will try the man 
>>>> pages. Second, the problem is NOT my hardware. This same hardware works 
>>>> just fine if you don't upgrade the gstream software on FC6.
>>>>
>>>>     Finally it is not just my problem. There have been many on this list 
>>>> say they see the same thing on F7. What your complaining about was an 
>>>> effort I made to tell those using the Volume Control how to do it. And 
>>>> yes most people have just one sound card. That being said how I wonder 
>>>> do you adjust the mike gain?
>>>>
>>>> Karl
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>>> Pebkac - _p_roblem _e_xists _b_etween _k_eyboard _a_nd _c_omputer.  ;-)
>>>
>>> It means that you don't know, don't understand, or both, what you are
>>> doing. Which can be dangerous to your installation. You are using what is
>>> called the 'shotgun' method. What does that mean? Think about using a
>>> shotgun to try to kill a single housefly buzzing around your living room.
>>>
>>> I can understand you frustrations. Truly.
>>>
>>> And Gnome-Volume-Control, as you have been told by several people, has
>>> absolutely nothing to do with audio volume. What does that mean? that you
>>> are trying to solve your problem but twiddling with the wrong package.
>>>
>>> From what you are describing you are looking at a KDE GUI audio mixer
>>> application. And that I can not help you with because I do not use KDE.
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>>     David. In several cases I have called it the Gnome Volume Control. I 
>> have today filed a bug. We do not need to beat this old horse again. It 
>> is being worked on.
>>
>> Karl
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> Well in that case I wish you luck. I use GNOME as my desktop and do not
> have KDE, or any other desktop installed. All I can tell is that mine
> works. The red 'X's you mentioned switch on and off with a single, simple
> mouse click. And setting them on or off affects if the device they control
> works or doesn't work.
>
>   
    Well David don't keep us in suspense, what version of Fedora and did 
you apply all upgrades?

Karl