Fedora 7 CD iso files?
Knute Johnson
knute at frazmtn.com
Sun Jun 3 19:09:51 UTC 2007
>Knute Johnson wrote:
>>> On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:42:05 -0700
>>> Knute Johnson <knute at frazmtn.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> That works fine but you can't upgrade an existing installation
>>>> without a DVD drive or a complicated (and not really documented so
>>>> that a linux blivet can do it) set of procedures.
>>> You already have a mail server and a desktop machine. Why not copy the
>>> dvdimage and host a nfs server on one (which will take you about 3 minutes to
>>> set up), and boot off of the cdrom boot.iso on the other; upgrade it. Then copy
>>> the dvd image to the other, host a nfs server on that, and upgrade it.
>>>
>>> Assuming that they are in the same room (or can be brought into the same room)
>>> it won't take any longer to do it this way than it would take to shuffle
>>> all of those CD's around. Really!
>>
>> They are on a different network and nfs is not installed on the mail
>> server. Installing it is probably not a big problem but that
>> computer is connected directly to the net and I don't think I want
>> nfs exposed to the world. And the mail server is downstairs in the
>> garage and my desktop isn't. Then add to that that I have no idea
>> how nfs works or how to configure it or how to do an install with it.
>> I'm not opposed to learning new skills but I don't have unlimited
>> time to fool with this.
>
>OK, lemme get this straight. You're going to do an in-place upgrade on
>a PRODUCTION mail server without having done it on an identical
>development/test environment first?
>
>Are you insane?
You can see my other post about the mail server twin. So no I am not
insane (a little paranoid maybe).
>> CDs are simple and fairly reliable (more so now that I figured out
>> how solve the media check problem). My mail server is still at FC5
>> because I didn't want to risk blowing it up when I upgraded it. Now
>> it is time to upgrade and there are no disks. Upgrading is hazardous
>> enough without having to drag computers around, change their
>> addresses, do an install that I can't find any real instructions for
>> and drag my desktop downstairs.
>
>Why don't you just put the DVD iso image on the mail server's hard
>drive, burn the boot.iso file to CD, boot off of it with the command
>"linux askmethod" and tell it to install off your local disk? Easy as
>can be.
How will that work when the installer formats the drive?
>> I think maybe I'll just change my mail server computer to ubuntu
>> server. They just upgrade from the net. No disks.
>
>Why do people like you think this will make us go all aquiver and fall
>to our knees begging you to stay, professing the error of our ways?
I don't care if you quiver or beg. Why would I? If you don't want F
to be usable by more people then you should be glad to get rid of me.
I just want a simple system that I can install or upgrade with a CD
drive. Who would want to keep me around?
>I mean, seriously, your whole argument is "I'm too lazy to do this the
>right way, maybe I should go to Ubuntu! That'll be cool!"
I'm not too lazy. I spend way too much time keeping my Linux
computers running or trying to get things to work on them that just
install and run on Windows.
>If you seriously think moving from Fedora to Ubuntu is going to be
>easier than just doing your freaking due diligence around this upgrade,
>then hey, knock yourself out.
You should try harder to make me go away. That was a pitiful
attempt.
>Otherwise, ask smart questions, do the work necessary to run your
>environment in a sane fashion, and don't be a jerk.
I'm not the jerk here Mr. Pot.
I'll ask a smart question then. My DVD image will be done
downloading today, explain exactly how, in enough detail that I can
actually get it to work, to install it to the hard drive of my mail
server twin and upgrade that computer.
Or just call me a jerk and send me on my way, your choice.
--
Knute Johnson
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