Where are all the updates gone?

[Aaron Konstam]

On Sun, 2007-03-04 at 11:03 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> Res wrote:
> 
> > Just to add to this, I will always take far more notice of a poster with 
> > a redhat.com address then one of the several fedora addresses getting 
> > around.
> 
> That's nice.  But, even those with redhat.com addresses are not 
> spokespersons for Red Hat and what they say can never be construed as gospel 
> or policy.  I even recall several employees of Red Hat posting from their 
> personal addresses since they recognized that posting from their Red Hat 
> accounts could be taken as if they spoke for Red Hat.
> 
> Now, all that I perceive is the following:
> 
> 1.  Fedora is a trademark of Red Hat, Inc.  The Fedora Project is not a 
> supported product of Red Hat, Inc.
> 
> 2.  Fedora is a set of projects, *sponsored* by Red Hat and guided by the 
> Fedora Project Board. These projects are developed by a large community of 
> people who strive to provide and maintain the very best in free, open source 
> software and standards.
> 
> 3.  lilo was dropped from Fedora and is also being dropped from the upcoming 
> RELv5.  As to the exact "why"?  I don't have any insight but suspect it was 
> decided with the Fedora Project Board and Red Hat.
> 
> 4.  There is only one person developing/supporting lilo, John Coffman.
> 
> 5.  You like lilo and totally dislike grub.
> 
> 6.  You have been offered the chance to take up the post of maintainer for 
> lilo in Fedora as a contributor to Fedora Extras.  It seems you're not 
> really interested in becoming a contributor but prefer to remain part of the 
> "those that can't, bitch" contingent.
> 
> 7.  By your own admission the only time you post to the list is " when I get 
> bored, or feel  a comment is warranted".
> 
> 8.  People "complain" and people get "attacked" on this list and other 
> lists.  Generally, those who complain don't do so in a constructive manner. 
>   Generally, those who attack have become defensive and/or overreact.
> 
> On a personal note, I do not use Fedora, Ubuntu, Gentoo, Slackware, Debian, 
> and others in a production environment and it is unlikely I ever will.  I 
> will play with them but that's about it.
All this attack stuff is very interesting but Res's point if it can be
expanded is as follows: When Rahul posts he should make it clear if he
is posting as an individual or as a member of the Fedora Project Board.

Personally I get tired of people saying that Fedora is not a RedHat
product. Repeat to self the motto: If it walks as a duck .....
-- 
Aaron Konstam <akonstam at sbcglobal.net>