Where are all the updates gone?

[Rahul Sundaram]

Aaron Konstam wrote:

> Rahul you are not a terrible person. But make it clear in what role to
> you make your pronouncements.

Tell me why it matters to this discussion and I will. My assertion is 
simple. Any software in general that is under a Free software license 
and unrestricted by software patents is not in Fedora only because there 
is no maintainer interested enough to do it.

> If Fedora is not a product of RedHat as you state above then neither
> were any of the RedHat versions of the past. 

I dont think you read 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAQ#head-97c8fd6a42741eeb20195b4f7ddcc9f561712455 
which I pointed out that explains the differences. Red Hat Linux was 
sold as a retail product and entirely maintained by Red Hat. Fedora in 
contrast is never sold by Red Hat as a retail product and has active 
volunteer community participation. It was explicitly defined not to be a 
Red Hat product right from the launch of this project.

>> Let us face it Fedora is a product of and controlled by RedHat.

There are contributions to Fedora both from Red Hat and the volunteer 
community. Any project that has volunteer contributors cannot be 
controlled by a single entity simple because you cannot force them to do 
what you want.

I know you think the Fedora Project
> Board controls Fedora but who controls the Fedora Project Board or do
> you assert it is completely independent of RedHat.

Fedora Project board doesnt "control" Fedora either. There are few 
policy decisions that are taken at that level. Most of the actual 
routine work is done by the different teams based on their interest, 
the board just stays out of the water and this is how it is meant to 
work. Red Hat has never required the Fedora Project board to do anything 
on its behalf so far.  We have always made decisions based on the board 
discussions which includes non Red Hat folks in it. Except for legal 
matters and very few other things  (since Red Hat is legal entity for 
Fedora and such decisions requires professional lawyers), I would 
consider unilateral decisions a failure. My participation in the board 
is voluntary based on my interest and contributors to Fedora and never 
has been on the behalf of Red Hat.

  You give your results
> to RHEL out of a wish to contribute to RedHat products. It that it?

Not sure what you are asking. Are you specifically asking me about me? I 
dont work on RHEL. If you are asking about Fedora, RHEL is a Fedora 
derivative and one of the primary ones. OLPC is another. Fedora as Free 
software gives everybody the same rights to create derivatives or forks.

Rahul