Having an Evolution and Mail notification Problem?

[Les Mikesell]

Robin Laing wrote:

>>> I take my mail from the Inbox and move it to and Export folder.  I 
>>> then select all the mail in the Export server.  I then right click 
>>> and use "save as" and put the messages in
>>> ~/.Thunderbird/{default}/Mail/Local/Import.
>>
>> Why not fire up an imap server (on your own box if you don't need 
>> access from multiple places or don't have anything else available).
>>
> 
> I would still need to use the OWA part of evolution.  There is hope 
> though for Openchange.
> http://wiki.openchange.org/index.php/OPENCHANGE-MAPI-FETCHMAIL

You have to use it once - to move the message to your imap folder which 
you should be able to do in a rule. Subsequent manipulation should be 
via imap. If you need to keep the message on the exchange server too, 
move it to a different folder and out of the inbox in a rule.

>> If you have an imap server available (and running fedora you obviously 
>> could...), you can have an evolution rule copy your exchange mail over 
>> to folders there and subsequently access it with TB or any other 
>> imap-aware mailer - even while evolution is still running.
>>
> 
> It is just as easy to just save the mail.

But then you've saved it in some client-specific format.  If you move it 
to an imap folder you can jump among different clients or run them at 
the same time.  You should be able to run evolution minimized or even on 
a different machine, letting it move the mail while you use TB or 
something else to access it on the imap server.

> In a simple example, I ran a rule to move all the mail from my inbox to 
> my local "Export" folder and it took ages.  Again, it was OWA and 
> possibly spamassasin taking the time.  I have timed it at over 2 hours 
> on a Monday Morning.  When Evolution quit running filters automatically 
> (some update) I tried the drag and drop to the Export folder.  It was 
> much faster, a minute or two in comparison to 30 or 40 minutes.  At that 
> time I found it was just easier for me to just move the mail.

I don't understand why the filters would take longer that a drag-n-drop 
move.  Something else must be going on.  But you can drop to an imap 
folder if it works better than a rule.

> My biggest complaint about Evolution is I cannot automatically control 
> the times it checks my mail.  I don't want instant notification and I 
> want my mail sorted when I get my mail.  Both of these took to long in 
> Evo.  TB can sort 500+ messages in a few seconds into multiple mail 
> boxes.  I cannot even get the mail from the server in under a few 
> minutes.  TB used to get the same amount of mail before the change to 
> Exchange in less than a minute.  And that was TB 1.x which is slower 
> than 2.x.

Something is wrong here.  I switched to TB because I alternate between 
linux, windows and mac platforms and it works about the same everywhere 
(and with imap sees the same email).  The thing I missed about Evolution 
was that it would jump instantly between a threaded or unthreaded view 
where TB not only didn't have a hotkey for the switch but takes longer 
to do it.

> I am watching Openchange and the progress of their MAPI lib to see if it 
> can be used regularly.  I have also submitted the info the the TB site 
> to see if they could start using it.
> 
> If IT would only give IMAP or POP access to the Exchange Server, all 
> would be good.

Yes, exchange is a surprisingly good IMAP server (2000 or later anyway), 
but you can't get the calendar that way and if there are a lot of public 
folders on the server you need a client that can be configure to only 
show subscribed folders (apple mail can't...).  I think everything 
should work through imaps too if your admin is concerned about security.
You might be able to set up a server-side rule to forward or copy to 
another server that would be easier to use.  I use gmail for most mail 
list traffic but pick it up with fetchmail so I can access it with imap. 
  This would also let me sort with procmail if I wanted.

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   Les Mikesell
    lesmikesell at gmail.com