I love IP Tables....

[Sebastian Gurovich]

Unfortunately Dave, most people in this world don´t have electricity
nor do they manage their own computers and networks.
In the future some of these people and newborns will own a computer
and manage their own network. This means they may need to learn like
you once had to, and yes make mistakes, much like you did too.

So what seem like reasonable steps for you now, might not be
reasonable to others. The notion that computer licences be required in
order to operate computers (and networks) much like car licences are
is a very interesting one, especially for an opensource community.

-Seb

On 5/27/07, David G. Miller <dave at davenjudy.org> wrote:
> Tim <ignored_mailbox at yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 2007-05-27 at 09:50 -0700, Les wrote:
> >> > we have had banks for thousands of years, and they still get robbed.
> >> > Do we blame the bankers?
> >>
> >
> > Yes, if they don't make any sensible efforts to make it hard to rob
> > them.
> I wonder if someone who gets a bot attack could sue the end users who
> own the zombies under what is known in the U.S. as maintaining an
> "attractive nuisance."  This is the same legal concept as being able to
> sue someone for negligence if they have an unfenced swimming pool and
> someone gets hurt in said pool.  To me, having an inadequately protected
> system accessible through the internet means having an "attractive
> nuisance."  It's the same concept as holding the owner of a car liable
> if they leave it parked and unlocked with the engine running and someone
> steals the car and gets into trouble.
>
> The owner of property needs to take reasonable steps to make sure that
> the property isn't misused.  This means not leaving your car with the
> keys in the ignition, not having an unfenced swimming pool and not
> having a system with inadequate protection attached to the internet.
>
> Cheers,
> Dave
>
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