Fedora and Qwest
Kam Leo
kam.leo at gmail.com
Wed May 16 18:58:27 UTC 2007
On 5/16/07, Frank Cox <theatre at sasktel.net> wrote:
> I am setting up a customized application server for a business in the USA and
> am at my wits end with Qwest Communications.
>
> My client called them to obtain a static IP address and they gave him the IP
> address, subnet and primary and secondary DNS server. And that's it. No
> gateway address. (They told him that the gateway is 192.168.0.1, believe it
> or not.) He told me that they refuse to give him the gateway address unless he
> wants a block of IP addresses. They won't give it out if he just wants one
> address.
>
> I said that's ridiculous; a static IP address can't work without specifying a
> gateway address. He gave me his "case number" and all of that rigamarole and I
> phoned Quest tech support myself.
>
> Sure enough. I told the guy who answered the phone what I want and he said
> that they won't give out the gateway address unless he gets a block of IP
> addresses. I said that as far am I am aware it is impossible for the customer
> to actually use his static IP address without a gateway, but that made no
> difference. No gateway.
>
> Qwest gave him some kind of a magical installation CD that set up his Windows
> XP computer to go online. And it is online, he can plug his Windows computer
> into that modem and browse the web and so on with no problem.
>
> Dandy. We can get the magic numbers off of this Windows machine.
>
> So I told him to run "ipconfig" and tell me what it says.
>
> IP Address is what he was assigned by Qwest, good.
> Subnet 255.255.255.0, good.
> Gateway 192.168.0.1 ---- ?!?!?!
>
> Honest to ghawd, that's what it says! Remember that in my original question I
> said that the Qwest tech support guy told me that the gateway address was
> 192.168.0.1. He wasn't lying, apparently.
>
> Well, you can't fight city hall so I said fine, let's put those numbers into
> the router and see what happens. But of course the router rejects that gateway
> as not on the same network. No surprise.
>
> I told him to run a "tracert www.sasktel.net" to see what happens there. He
> doesn't get any IP address reported that's on his network either.
>
> I tried a traceroute to his IP address. I have double-spaced this because my
> mail client wants to mess up the lines otherwise:
>
> 1 ws001.ltsp (192.168.0.1) 0.608 ms 0.716 ms 0.847 ms
>
> 2 142-165-95-254.msjw.static.sasknet.sk.ca (142.165.95.254) 9.756 ms 11.684
> ms 13.663 ms
>
> 3 142.165.70.2 (142.165.70.2) 16.003 ms 18.292 ms 20.229 ms
>
> 4 142.165.60.182 (142.165.60.182) 23.621 ms 25.065 ms 26.798 ms
>
> 5 142.165.2.94 (142.165.2.94) 28.310 ms 29.954 ms 32.393 ms
>
> 6 67.69.244.254 (67.69.244.254) 34.396 ms 34.844 ms 37.138 ms
>
> 7 core1-regina-pos9-1.in.bellnexxia.net (206.108.101.57) 39.049 ms 9.933
> ms 10.948 ms
>
> 8 core2-toronto12_POS9-3.net.bell.ca (64.230.144.25) 44.678 ms
> 47.065 ms 48.980 ms
> 9 core3-toronto12_POS6-0.net.bell.ca (64.230.242.201)
> 132.060 ms 132.313 ms 132.519 ms
>
> 10 core1-chicago23_pos13-0-0.net.bell.ca
> (64.230.147.18) 67.141 ms 69.134 ms 71.748 ms
>
> 11 bx1-chicagodt_POS6-0.net.bell.ca (64.230.223.42) 76.089 ms 77.465 ms
> 79.184 ms
>
> 12 Qwest_bx1-chicagodt_POS7_0.net.bell.ca (64.230.186.146) 81.117 ms
> 82.842 ms 85.031 ms
>
> 13 cer-core-02.inet.qwest.net (205.171.139.149) 76.695 ms 54.154 ms 56.055
> ms
>
> 14 * * *
>
> and so on.
>
> Whether he is online or offliine with that Windows machine, the traceroute
> stops at 205.171.139.149 as shown. And his network is not 205.171.139.x!
>
> I have absolutely no idea what's going on here.
>
> Can any of you offer any insight? The whole thing is an Alice in Wonderland
> thing as far as I can see, and the further I go down this rabbit hole the less
> sense it seems to make. I don't see how those settings on his Windows computer
> can work, and I don't see how the tracert results that he got can be possible
> either. But it does, and it did.
>
> And, as I said, nobody that we can actually talk to at Qwest can provide any
> information at all, other than run the CD and it will all be set up by magic.
>
>
> --
> MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com
The information is contained in your client's cable/dsl modem. He
should be able to access it at http://192.168.0.1. If he will need the
administrator's password which should be included with the modem
documentation (may be on CDROM).
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