I love IP Tables....

[Bruno Wolff III]

On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 09:50:06 -0700,
  Les <hlhowell at pacbell.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi, Wolfgang, 
>     I am sur e you didn't mean to insult the folks who use our efforts,
> the users, but instead the designers of the bots themselves should be
> the ones in deep trouble.  Even those who study and work dilligently at
> defense get hacked sometimes via the combination of total effort
> expended against them, and the fact that the hackers only need to "get
> it right once" as has been said by Rumsfeld in connection with
> terrorists.  I believe that it is possible to have good security and
> still get hit.  I mean, we have had banks for thousands of years, and
> they still get robbed.  Do we blame the bankers?

People can still be held responsible for being negligent.
I'd actually like to see the ISPs held more accountable. They don't have
a lot of incentive to cut their own users off as they will either leave
or need more help desk support than they are worth to keep as customers.