I love IP Tables....

[William Case]

Hi Les, Tim and Ric;

You have hit on a topic that has long been near and dear to my heart.

On Thu, 2007-05-31 at 10:37 -0400, Ric Moore wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-05-31 at 16:13 +0930, Tim wrote:
> > On Wed, 2007-05-30 at 11:18 -0700, Les wrote:
>  
> > Hmmm, I'm not surprised.  Even when computers are in a good state, you
> > can spend far too much time setting up to do what you want, compared to
> > actually doing it.  Then there's the usual sorry state of PCs in schools
> > with staff that are technically illiterate.
> > 
> > I've spent many years working in school, and to be honest, I think we're
> > much better off with less computers, not more.  People skills are more
> > important, and they're shocking, these days.
> 
That's one of the main functions of school.  I have always opposed
special education for the gifted on that basis.  The most important
lesson that gifted children need is not just the development of special
skills but how to live in a world of ordinary people.  I have seen too
many people who were prodigies of some kind or another in their youth
who have never developed, or bypassed, everyday living skills.

> I wuz trying to teach my 75 year old Uncle how EASY it was to just
> intuit stuff as you go. Showing him firefox and how to google, I wanted
> him to enter the google search box and click to focus. OK, move up the
> page with the pointer... he lifts the mouse straight up off of the mouse
> pad. <sigh> 
> 
I have tried to teach several people to use a computer from square one.
Your anecdote is not uncommon.  I have long believed that Linux has the
opportunity to start over in desktop design in a way M$ never could,
even if they wanted to.

I would like to see really well thought out and genuinely intuitively
designed front ends for Linux that demonstrate the ingenuity and
intelligence that has gone into the backend.  5/6 of the world does not
yet use or have access to computers -- but they will.  I will bet that
95% of those do not want or need to know how a computer works for
computers to be useful in their lives.

Linux and Linux developers have the opportunity to meet that need.  

> Some fail to teach correctly, Some never get it. I tend to take the
> blame on this one, but I didn't anticipate THAT move!! <cackles> Ric
> 
Dismissing a failure to 'get it', avoids the failure to anticipate
needs.  And condemning users of stupidity -- I am not accusing you of
that, but I see it all the time on Linux lists -- moves the blame onto
the victim.  I don't believe that most of those who have basic
difficulties are stupid, but even if they were, shouldn't a computer be
a device that helps people with a reduced metal capacity overcome the
trials and frustrations of life not increase those difficulties.  If an
Operating System and/or an application can't do that, in the universal
sense, what use is it?

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Regards Bill