Gripes, gripes: F8 Live, F8 DVD, i6000

Alexander Volovics awol at
Fri Nov 9 16:07:55 UTC 2007

Installing F8 on a Dell i6000 laptop:

1) Using the DVD:

   The install comes no further than 'running /sbin/loader'
   and then stops. Nothing happens anymore.
   This is a curious regression from F8 test 3 where I had no
   such problems!

   Maybe this can be solved using one or other kernel parameter
   but then you have to go and search the internet for a list
   or have the kernel documentation at hand.
   A complete list with comments should be available in a README
   included on the DVD and a reference included in the Release Notes.

2) Using the Live CD:
   Here we have a really nasty omission in the Release Notes:
   The install from the Live CD seems to have changed.
   You no longer get the second stage 'postinstall configuration'.
   This is done implicitely and a user is not created
   a) This is very confusing as you get the impression that the
      install is not complete
   b) When you reboot you are confronted with an inlog screen
      without having a username and password available. 
   (There seems to be a user 'Fedora Live' or something but this
    is mentioned nowhere).
   Off course you can create a user and password as root but
   how is a novice to know this. This is really very confusing	
   and it is a really nasty omission not mentioning this in the
   Release Notes.

   Furthermore the CD is still not ejected after the install
   from CD. Very clumsy. 
   If you choose to load the image in memory the CD is ejected.
   Good. But here we have another mistake/omission. The README
   on the CD mentions that you can "select" 'Run from RAM' from
   the boot menu. 
   a) the boot menu is only visible after pressing 'Enter' at
      the boot screen. It does not appear spontaneously as it should.
   b) The boot menu contains no entry "Run from RAM" !
   To "Run from RAM" you have to add the kernel parameter
   'live_ram'. Again no mention of this anywhere or any instructions
   on how to do this.

   I would have thought that one of the purposes of the Live CD
   is to have an easy evaluation of Linux for new users and
   an even easier install if they decide to use it.
   If that is the case then I would look very carefully how
   Ubuntu accomplishes this and try to emulate their smooth
   What we have here is not only 'rough' but also very clumsy.

More information about the fedora-list mailing list