f8: NetworkManager + runlevel 3 problem

John Summerfield debian at herakles.homelinux.org
Sun Nov 11 01:14:42 UTC 2007

David Boles wrote:

> Do you know of, can you name, another distro where "Wireless" does not
> "sucks"? Just curious here because I thought that this a Linux, in
> general, driver problem caused by proprietary drivers and not just the
> fault of Fedora.

I know that Ubuntu went to considerable trouble to get Ubuntu working 
well on laptops a two or three releases ago. I do not know the status of 
wireless on Ubuntu, but I suspect it's been better in other respects 
(power management, hibernation) on laptops for a while.

I know wireless on opensuse 10.2 sucks pretty badly, but I really can't 
say whether other distros do it better or worse.

Not knowing, I crossed out Linux and substituted Fedora.

In this case, I'm assuming working drivers; I have Atheros-based cards 
and I can get a working driver for them. Having done that, on Fedora, 
wireless still sucks.

And my statement is an observation, not an attribution of blame. 
Attributing blame just gets arguments, but anyone who extols the wonders 
of Linux wireless networking to a Windows or OS X user deserves derision.



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