k5di at zianet.com
Mon Nov 12 21:14:04 UTC 2007
Karl Larsen wrote:
> Gilboa Davara wrote:
>> On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 11:49 -0700, Karl Larsen wrote:
>>> Anaconda found that my computer has a Nvidia VGA hardware and
>>> even called it the right model! I was happy and hoped it would carry
>>> on but when I rebooted it has the same 800X600 off center x-windows
>>> that it had with F7 when it was new. So it seems there has been no
>>> work on setting up a new version of Fedora capable of working with
>>> Nvidia hardware. That will be my bug.
>> A. Fedora (and/or X.org) cannot be held responsible for a semi-working
>> driver. At least as long nVidia is refusing the release the required
>> spec of nVidia chipset. Blame nVidia instead. (Yes, I know that nVidia
>> is helping the 2D driver... but this is far from being sufficient.
>> B. ... Even if Fedora and/or do anything about a semi-working driver,
>> unless you take the time to report the problem (with exact model
>> numbers, configuration, etc), it will not be fixed.
>> C. Having persistent (-unreported-) bugs doesn't mean "no work is being
>> done"... In most cases it means: "We are not aware of the problem or
>> have insufficient data to solve it". Xorg and Fedora developers are no
>> ... In short, you can either (A) bitch and moan, or (B) you can help
>> Fedora solve your problem (Filing a bug report, complete with
>> machine/Xorg/etc configuration, etc).
>> In case you're wondering, posting a message in fedora-users (without any
>> meaningful information) is option A.
>> - Gilboa
> There are two things I have to do to make Nvidia work on Fedora.
> First not on FC6 but on F7 and F8 when you do a new load from the DVD
> you get a strange not right X windows and you get no pointer.
> The pointer is easy, you just have to add to xorg.conf a Option
> that causes Fedora to use the software pointer. Until you have gone to
> level 5 without a pointer you don't know what a pain the lack of a
> pointer is :-(
> I found on the Nvidia web page a great bash file that lets me
> update the Nvidia kernel module when needed. It is my understanding
> that somewhere in the Fedora group there exists this bash file and
> they are making kernel rpm packages. And a rpm package to load so the
> system can use the kernel.
> This has been here for around a year. But because of the Fedora
> "standards" they will not package the needed Nvidia software because
> they send us binary files. Now Nvidia has no problem sending the
> proper binary files to Microsoft who puts it into there packages and
> thank Nvidia.
> How long will Nvidia be around? The last time I looked they have
> bought back 2 million of their own shares at around $35/share and are
> paying a profit to investors on slightly over 3 Billion dollars of
> profit this year. We will see more and more new computers using Nvidia
> products because they sell a hardware set to Motherboard makers that
> do everything.
> So yes I will write 2 bugs. One will be to fix the pointer problem
> forever, and the other will cover the problem I do not know how to solve.
You can read the bug I submitted for your own information. It is bug
378751 and it includes a way to fix the problem on all new versions.
Karl F. Larsen, AKA K5DI
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