Can Java just shoot me?

Chris G cl at
Sat Nov 24 18:00:41 UTC 2007

On Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 09:49:33AM -0800, Knute Johnson wrote:
> >Chris G wrote:
> >> 
> >> [snip me not liking Java and you saying it's the way to do something]
> >> 
> >> OK, you have a case where Java is useful/necessary, that doesn't mean
> >> that *many* (or even most) uses of Java in web applications are good
> >> and necessary.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Fundamentally I don't think we disagree!  :-)
> >
> >I disagree.  Usable java is the way out of monopoly control of web 
> >browsers (and hardware as well).  It's unfortunate that alternative 
> >operating systems haven't worked to provide it.
But Java doesn't have very much to do with 99% of what a browser shows
you.  It's just a way of running client side applications.  At least
that's what the Java plugin (which is what provoked this whole thread)
is for.

How will Java be "the way out of monopoly control of web browsers"?
It's the people who write an maintain Firefox and other 'freeware'
browsers who are doing that surely.

Using Java as a general purpose programming language is a whole
different ball game, it's something I'm involved in where I work but
it has nothing whatever to do with browsers or the web.

Chris Green

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