f8: NetworkManager + runlevel 3 problem

[Timothy Murphy]

Tim wrote:

>> But do you ever have problems with wired connections?
>> I've never had any difficulty, anywhere, with ethernet connections.
>> 
>> I wish NM would stick to WiFi, where it could conceivably
>> serve as a replacement for wireless-tools.
> 
> One of the jobs it manages, for some users, is when they go from a wired
> network to a wireless one.  Doing that automatically, and painlessly, is
> needed for some people.  If it *only* dealt with wireless they'd need
> yet another tool to manage this for them.

But I have absolutely no problem going from ethernet to WiFi, or vice versa.
They use different interfaces, with different MACs,
and do not appear to me to intersect in any way at all.

People meet a lot of problems with WiFi, as this list testifies.
They meet very few problems with ethernet, again as this list testifies.
It would much better to keep them separate,
and just concentrate on getting WiFi to work 
with as many devices as possible.

In my view, if a WiFi device works with NM
then it should work with system-config-network, and vice versa.
If it doesn't then there is a fault with one or the other service,
not with the WiFi device.