Wanna give me a hand debunking this?
John Summerfield
debian at herakles.homelinux.org
Tue Nov 20 23:03:31 UTC 2007
Kelly Miller wrote:
> Although I imagine people don't want to spend too much time feeding the
> trolls, I want to at least be able to post something showing that I was
> trying to do the right thing before I write this off as a stupid troll
> argument. So someone want to point me in the direction of some evidence
> showing how much of a lie this is?
>
> "�My guess is that Novell tries to elevate levels of participation in
> OpenSUSE because that�s the distribution Novell feeds on. It hopes that
> it can hide in the fog while others do all the labour.�
>
> This describes exactly what Red Hat does with Fedora. Not that it was a
> bad thing, as everybody working on or using Fedora is conscious ofusing
> a bleeding-edge distro.
>
> So, to explain in more detail: Fedora was meant to help the development
> of Red Hat�s codebase with the help of the community. Red Hat uses
> Fedora (good as it may be) purely as a test-bed, where they can try out
> new technologies that could prove to be too unstable for RHEL without
> any risk. Fixes from RHEL don�t go upstream to Fedora because the
> codecase it too different. Not because of evil intent from Red Hat�s
> side but just because the enterprise-distro and the
> bleeding-edge-testing distro are too far apart.
>
> The only part that is really negative about Fedora is that something
> doesn�t happen before a release that happens before openSUSE-releases: A
> decided corporate effort at bug-squashing. It doesn�t happen because Red
> Hat cannot afford to put its complete ressources at de-bugging code that
> they won�t use for their commercial product anytime soon (while for
> Novell it makes sense because openSUSE�s code goes back into SLED, soon).
>
> The result is that Fedora is a fine distro but a bit rough around the
> edges."
>
There's not much that's outright wrong there, I wouldn't worry about it.
You won't convince anyone any more than they will convince you, their
views are pretty set.
I use both, though mainly Fedora, and some others. I don't see a great
difference between the Red Hat and SUSE (and Canonical if it comes to
that) models. All have bleeding-edge projects where the adventurous can
cut themselves, and stable versions for those averse to pain.
All make a decent effort at bug-fixing and polishing the product. Where
sensible (eg FC<>RHEL5), I'm sure fixes are shared.
--
Cheers
John
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