nvidia

[Rudolf Kastl]

On 10/28/07, Karl Larsen <k5di at zianet.com> wrote:
> David Boles wrote:
> > on 10/28/2007 4:11 PM, Karl Larsen wrote:
> >
> >> David Boles wrote:
> >>
> >>> on 10/28/2007 3:04 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Alan Cox wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> But note that there is nothing remotely illegal about the nvidia driver,
> >>>>>> nor would there be any problem with the fedora project distributing it
> >>>>>> themselves if they had any reason to care about the user experience.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Actually the legal state of the Nvidia driver is a matter of debate. Even
> >>>>> if it was legal it would not meet the Fedora policy, nor be in the
> >>>>> interests of the project.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> When the users' interests aren't the same as the project's interests,
> >>>> you have to wonder why there are any users - or how long there will be any.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> The Linux users should get of their collective lazy a$$es and setup their
> >>> systems to suit themselves if they want to use non FOSS packages.
> >>>
> >>> Since the current subject is Nvidia, a Windows install, for example, comes
> >>> with a 'it works' Nvidia video driver. Just like Linux does. *Not* the
> >>> fancy one from Nvidia that does all of the fancy stuff. The 'Stupid
> >>> Windows User' must go to the Nvidia site, find the proper driver for his
> >>> video card and install it to get the fancy video stuff.
> >>>
> >>> So what you are saying or implying here? That 'Stupid Windows Users' know
> >>> more about their systems and how to set them up than 'Brilliant Linux
> >>> Users' do?   ;-)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>     The Windows user has a screen with a pointer on it. He can use that
> >> screen forever and be happy. If he is at home and wants to run Flight
> >> Simulator he needs to get the better driver and the instruction on
> >> flight sim include how to get it.
> >>
> >>     Fedora users discover a broken screen sometimes without a pointer
> >> and that is how it works. Stupid since there are alternatives.
> >>
> >
> >
> > I didn't say that you should *not* use the Nvidia drivers Karl. Only that
> > you should be prepared to do the work needed to do that. And that you
> > should understand just *why* Fedora can *not* do this. And just why the
> > people on the 'third party sites' might be a little behind your needs.
> > Thinks like they might have real jobs. They are doing it because they want
> > to do it. And for no money. Kinda' hard to be upset with someone who is
> > giving you their time and efforts for free. That's all.
> >
> >
>     Well after all this "why we can't do a dam thing" let's consider how
> to help a new user of Fedora x who stumbles onto this list and is asking
> for help with the usual nvidia problems. We need someone to get those
> people headed in the right direction. I will be willing to do that. As I
> looked today nvidia is a big company making a lot of money. My computer
> is full of there stuff. Since Fedora x will just work terrible with
> nvidia I think we must be ready to help.

since you want to help to really resolve the problem the nouveau
project is waiting for your patches:
http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/


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