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Re: ATI video comes out of the closet

Sam Varshavchik wrote:

Everything comes from Apple or is blessed by Apple.

And how does that differ conceptually from buying a system integrated by Dell, HP, etc. and pre-loaded with an OS?

Dell didn't write the OS they're bundling.

With Linux, they can.  Do you expect that to make it better?  I don't.

Both Linux and Windows work on platforms that have, literally,
thousands of vendors manufacturing a tremendous range of equipment,
most of which has to have a properly working device driver.

Yes, and my experience over the last 5 years has been that the Windows versions are more dependable than the fedora versions. I'm sure there are individual exceptions to that, but I just don't see fedora as a bastion of stability here - or in a position to claim that they have the only approach to drivers that can work.

Perhaps true, but this is not going to change until more hardware manufacturers support free software.

I realize it isn't going to change, but as the binary drivers that are just fine under windows prove, it isn't the hardware manufacturers' fault.

> For hardware manufacturers that
support free software, their hardware has always been rock solid. Case in point: I've used various Adaptec SCSI HBAs for more than a decade. Never had a problem, except for one stretch, which has mostly due to me using a bleeding edge (at that time) 64bit Opteron.

You were lucky. There was another time in the RH9/FC1 era where they didn't work with the updated controllers, but Windows was in the same shape until they did a respin of their install CD, probably around win2ksp2. And the windows installer was too dumb to load the driver from anything but a stock floppy so this was really painful on servers that did not have floppy drives. At least fedora could get it from a CD or USB floppy.

  Les Mikesell
   lesmikesell gmail com

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