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Re: ATI video comes out of the closet



Les Mikesell wrote:
> Dave Ihnat wrote:
> 
>>> What are talking about? Is it dificult to install or use Fedora? What's
>>> the dificulty, I don't get it. Could you elaborate?
>>
>> Fedora is an experimental OS.  Things break when new releases come out.
>> It shouldn't be used for production.  But it's got all the latest
>> coolstuff.  So?  What's the problem?
> 
> The problem is that the only way to get current applications which are
> evolving rapidly and have the cool stuff you want is to get them bundled
> with a wildly experimental kernel and device drivers that will regularly
> die underneath them.   I don't see the point of changing the kernel or
> drivers in a machine _ever_ once they work correctly except perhaps for
> security updates or when adding new hardware.  The semantics of what the
> kernel is supposed to be doing was established pretty well 30 years or
> so ago.
> 
You do know that you can set up yum to exclude kernel updates, don't
you? If you don't want to play with kernel changes, don't update the
kernel. What is so hard about that?

> I realize that fedora isn't the distribution I wish it were, but I think
> everyone would be better off it there were a way to have Red Hat style
> administration, a stable kernel and device drivers, and up to date apps
> all in one distribution.  It isn''t nearly so traumatic to have an
> occasional crash or need to restart a single application as it is when
> the machine won't boot or you lose access to disk drives containing your
> data.
> 
How do you lose access to your machine? If you install a new kernel,
and it doesn't boot, you go back to the one that did work. That is
one of the reasons that the current working kernel is kept when a
new one is installed. How are the developers going to know that the
changes do not work on some hardware combination if nobody is
willing to test it. But if this is a big problem for you, but you
still want to update kernels, you should think about donating a
duplicate of your hardware to the developers. Then they can test the
changes before you get them.

Mikkel
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  Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons,
for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup!

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