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Re: ATI video comes out of the closet

Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Les Mikesell wrote:
Are you sure you're in the right place?
Yes, I try to use the right tools for the right jobs and thus need to
keep track of what is available and usable.  The right job for fedora
seems only to be to try to get some idea of what will be included in the
next stable RHEL/Centos versions - which I think is unfortunate.  But,
as not entirely unrelated side effect of that, FC3 and FC6 were very
stable and usable for a large part of their supported lives - FC6 still
is if you ignore a recent but quicky fixed scsi issue.   That makes me
believe that that fedora developers understand the issue and are capable
of delivering stability when it matches their agenda.  So, I keep hoping
they will someday use the same approach all the time.

Why is that unfortunate?

Because I'd rather be able to re-use the RH-style administrivia I've been using since RH4.x (the first one, not RHEL...), instead of having to switch to a distribution with different concepts to get a usable desktop. And, I think it would be good for RH to encourage people to continue using their admin style instead of forcing them to make this switch.

> Fedora is more then a test bed for
RHEL/Centos, because problems found here are passed up the line. So
things that are found here, and fixed, do not show up in other
distributions. Somebody has to test new things. That is what Fedora
is for.

I'm not against experimentation, but if you remember the '60s the results don't always work out for everyone. There has to be an alternative.

If that is a problem for you, then you are using the wrong

Yes, my complaint is that the right tool doesn't exist. At least not one based on 'yum update' and 'service xxx restart' administration.

I don't remember seeing anything that says Fedora will provide
a stable system. I have seen advice about it not being suitable for
a production environment. If you insist on using hte wrong tool for
the job, then problem is not the tool!

I'd be happy to switch. I have no brand loyalty at all beyond my own invested time in learning administration - and even that wears pretty thin when a machine won't boot after an update. Where is the distro that has current apps, RH style admin, and usable kernel stability _with_ security updates.

   Les Mikesell
    lesmikesell gmail com

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