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Re: Fedora philosophy (was ATI video comes out of the closet)

Alan Cox wrote:
real utility to the general user community, to providing a bleeding-edge
moving target.  You can try to use it if you wish, of course; but you've
little (if any) guarantee that normal updates won't break it, and you
are assured that you MUST carry out a major version upgrade within a year.

I would disagree about bleeding edge - Fedora tries to be current Which
is what people were asking for at the time and still do so: very loudly.

Are there _really_ that many people asking for major changes in the kernel to be done in mid-rev of a distro? Or are people actually just asking for current userland apps and perhaps drivers for new sata controllers and the like?

There were two distinct communities demanding exactly opposite things.
RHEL serves one of them (and thus Centos if you want bits not services),
Fedora is the other.

I'm actually suprised you've not moved to something like Centos Les as
people have suggested repeatedly that this would fit your needs better.

I have, on the server side. Mostly still Centos 3.x which has been extremely reliable. Do you happen to know what kernel companies that base their products that need to be extremely reliable on (F5's BigIP, Avaya phone switches, etc.)? Are any using a recent 2.6.x?

But firefox 1.5 just isn't what people should have on their desktops today, let alone until RHEL5's end of life.

Which, I suppose, made the Ubuntu distribution or something like it inevitable as most people have little use for a software testbed and predictably decide not to take fedora.

Rawhide is the testbed, and the -testing repositories. If you want a
bleeding edge software testing distribution take a look at Gentoo.

If I hadn't actually been running (or trying to run...) fedora since its beginning, I might accept that line. But I've had too many instances of unbootable update kernels and broken firewire support to trust it with anything important now. And it's too bad - I have one machine running RH7.3 that has been up for 4 years now (well firewalled so I'm not too concerned about security updates). I just miss that kind of reliability and updates that were actual improvements in the X.3 versions.

  Les Mikesell
   lesmikesell gmail com

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