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Re: Fedora philosophy (was ATI video comes out of the closet)



On Sun, 2007-09-09 at 23:05 -0400, Ric Moore wrote:
> On Sat, 2007-09-08 at 12:10 -0700, Craig White wrote:
> 
> > Obviously, Les' opinion is not a very popular one on this list but he is
> > entitled to his opinion and it doesn't make him a bad guy.
> > 
> > Some people on this list find it hard to disagree without being
> > disagreeable...we should leave that type of behavior to politics where
> > it belongs  ;-)
> 
> Exactly, very well put. I think the point I made that Fedora could work
> more on stability, user friendliness is Les's point. Slowing the pace
> down a bit would not be a bad thing, especially if the release could be
> beta tested and de-bugged more fully for the sake of both camps of
> users, the gear-heads and the people that would rather just use their
> computers as a viable tool. I'm in the latter camp and make no apologies
> for it. I've had to wrestle with xine at least 5 time in two years to
> make it do what it did successfully, before some update broke it. 
> 
> After six months of fooling with Croquet, I found that installing the
> nVidia driver from nVidia directly fixed it. I was physically ill, after
> realizing just how much time and effort I spent trying to fix something
> that anyone running a Mac or Winders had no libGL problem at all with.
> Iwas pushing for Fedora to be adopted for an open-source project for
> state governments, with 2.7 million potential incarcerated clients. So,
> I backed up every bit of the project, cleanly installed FC7 and
> re-installed the project. It's now f'ing broke. I look now like a GD
> idiot, ...again. 
> 
> My intent was all along to do a little bit of moral-payback for the
> benefits RH has bestowed on me. Yet, from what I'm reading it's screw me
> and others for wanting FC to be just a bit "stable", meaning the
> computer I had working yesterday will still be working tomorrow in like
> fashion. It makes no sense whatsoever to expect less than the "right
> thing", just as in the old days. Whatever happened to that? We'll settle
> for broken? RH, I thought I knew ye. The list email address sez
> <fedora-list redhat com> so it has you guys name on it. Matt, you
> reading this??  
> 
> So, my moral imperative, to those depending on me to deliver the goods
> on time, sane and working, is to go and look for the "right thing". I am
> supremely disappointed that I haven't found it here, but by Gawd I
> tried. It would have been one helluva market share but right, F me.
> Thanks for ridding me of the "cognitive distortion" that I could trust
> this crate to reliably fly.
> 
> <exiting stage left sobbing in search of the right distro for my needs>
----
What you are describing is RHEL - why not just use RHEL or a clone of
RHEL such as CentOS?

Craig


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