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Re: How best get rid of SELinux?



On Fri, 2007-09-21 at 12:35 -0600, Karl Larsen wrote:
> Craig White wrote:
> > On Fri, 2007-09-21 at 12:54 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >   
> >> On Friday 21 September 2007, Mike McCarty wrote:
> >>     
> >>> Karl Larsen wrote:
> >>>       
> >>>>    This whole thing reads to me that SELinux is the linux version of
> >>>> Norton or Avguard  to Windows. It will capture and keep the offending
> >>>> file from doing it's worst.
> >>>>
> >>>>    My friends with Windows cuss both software because it makes a mess
> >>>> out of doing normal things like installing new software.
> >>>>
> >>>>    There are very few Linux users. There are millions of Windows users.
> >>>> A guy writing a virus will write it for Windows every time! Now days
> >>>> they are spending time in prison.
> >>>>
> >>>>    So I decided to turn off SELinux even though it was not the thing to
> >>>> do according to the loader. I am glad I did so. I don't need the Norton
> >>>> problem on my F7.
> >>>>         
> >>> Well put. It is a solution to a non-problem. It creates more
> >>> admin worries than it solves.
> >>>
> >>> To put it another way: Where is the vast audience of Linux
> >>> users who have been clamoring for improvements to security
> >>> like those provided by SELinux?
> >>>
> >>> There is an audience of Linux users who are requesting that
> >>> it be removed.
> >>>
> >>>       
> >> +1
> >>     
> > ----
> > this is one of the reasons it won't ever happen...
> >
> > http://www.infoworld.com/article/07/06/15/red-hat-linux-gets-top-government-security-rating_1.html
> >
> > feel free to keep posting your uninformed opinions though and I note
> > that this is clearly one circle where your opinions don't count.
> >
> >   
>     Well I have as much right to my fully developed position on this 
> list as you have your "gut feeling". I say it is not at all likely that 
> a virus will be written for Linux. What do you say to that? You think it 
> is possible so it needs to be fixed.
----
my gut feeling vs your fully developed position? Do you actually expect
a response to that?

Of course there will be various virii/trojan horses/exploits of all
types that will affect linux implementations in the future. They exist
now.
----
> 
>     We have a half wit President in Bush and I can't get him out of 
> office. I don't loose sleep or write 50 messages. I know what I can not 
> change.
----
I am no fan of GWB and could go on and on about this subject but this
isn't the proper forum.

-- 
Craig White <craig tobyhouse com>


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