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Re: How best get rid of SELinux?

On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 01:11:49 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote:

> It takes less that a minute to find out 'man chcon'' :
> http://linux.die.net/man/1/chcon
> u -> user
> r -> role
> t -> type
> Manual modification of the security contexts aren't really expected of
> most people.

	With all due respect (which, yes, I know to be vast), the passage 
above is almost a parade example of the problem. Only the last sentence 
conveys any meaning whatever to me.

	Item : I have reset SELinux on the testbed machine to permissive, 
just to be able to c&p error messages (another item). After all my years 
of running linux, I can neither guess where chcon came into this, nor 
make head or tail of what I see when some guru tells me (no matter how 
politely) to Read The Fine Manual -- not even when I already have.

	The manual is written for the pros; it enables someone who has 
already mastered the topic of any page to check on any disremembered 
details. But its very succinctness (which the presumption of mastery 
affords) is as a cast iron wall to the uninitiated. Every line assumes 
not just mastery of its own topic, but of a thousand *other* man pages.

	Anyone uninitiated, confronted with almost any man page, either 
feels like the protagonist of Kafka's Trial, or doesn't see the problem.

	I doubt I can make sense of 1/79 of the man pages I read -- and 
even those are only the ones for things I've managed to do over and over, 
like scp.

	Item: I remembered in the night where I've been seeing 
admonitions to reboot so often -- in the most frequent error message 
(most frequent here, anyway) from the troubleshooter. It tells me to 
touch something *and* *reboot*. 

	More on this subthread in another post.

Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert
Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about.

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