How best (BUT WHY) get rid of SELinux?

[Andrew Kelly]

On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 08:06 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
> Paul Shaffer wrote:
> > The whole premise of this thead is just absolutely ridiculous.  A naive user has an issue of some sort, immediately throws the baby out with the bath and then every other uninformed Linux using imbecile on this list joins in the stupidity.
> >    
> >   Does anybody here really believe the NSA spent how many years (?) and untold millions of dollars developing the technology for no good reason?  Amazing, just amazing.  Shocked? Maybe.  Disappointed?  Yes.  Surprised?  No.
> 
> More relevant questions might be:
> 
>   1) Does everyone need NSA-level security and the accompanying issues?
> 
>   2) How many more years and millions will it take to adapt the 
> decades-worth of tradtional unix tools and applications that Linux users 
> take for granted to a wildly different security model?
> 
>   3) How much of #2 do you want to do yourself?

[highjack]

4) Why should a body like the NSA have any influence whatsoever upon my
personal computing experience?

5) Why does stuff like this so often devolve into name-calling?