low power tv

Tom Poe tompoe at fngi.net
Sat Apr 19 02:45:06 UTC 2008


Ric Moore wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 06:50 -0500, Tom Poe wrote:
>   
>> Ric Moore wrote:
>>     
>>> On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 00:52 -0500, Tom Poe wrote:
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> g wrote:
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> things just got interesting. part 15.247 does not really apply as i would have
>>>>> expected it to be.
>>>>>
>>>>> from what i have found so far, i can see that there is more to find and read.
>>>>>
>>>>> from what i have found and read, i will say this, go for it.
>>>>>
>>>>> as long as what ever system you use is within guide lines of part 15, you
>>>>> should be safe.
>>>>>
>>>>> i do recommend that you get full part 15 and read thru it to be familiar with
>>>>> what you are dealing with.
>>>>>
>>>>> in using such low power, you will be limited to near 'line of sight' coverage
>>>>> and you may get some degrading due to terrain, buildings and such.
>>>>>
>>>>> over all, your intent of use may be satisfied with results you want. as was
>>>>> said, $80 is not much to spend on such equipment.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> - --
>>>>>
>>>>> tc,hago.
>>>>>
>>>>> g
>>>>> .
>>>>>   
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> There's lots of activity when I type keywords, video conference distance 
>>>> learning, but nothing at the no budget level, yet.  Seems like there's 
>>>> going to be a server/client network description someplace.  
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> Tom, Check out Wonderland from Sun Microsystems. It runs under Java,
>>> provides a 3D world builder and get this, it'll run X11 apps within. I'm
>>> having problems getting the darn thing to connect as it uses inet6 but
>>> others have done it. It might be worth looking into. 
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>> Ric:  Good pointer.  It definitely would be an excellent use of a 
>> community wireless network (intranet).  Might be even a critical one for 
>> introducing our local teachers to computers and how they can be used in 
>> the classroom for collaborative educational projects.
>>
>> I saw Firefox boosting notes that called for disabling inet6 as one step 
>> to speed up browsing.  I wonder if you have to do something similar with 
>> your system whenever you move to Wonderland. 
>>     
>
> I'm still beating my brains out with inet6 but I've almost got it
> licked. Wonderland has two features the OP might wish to consider.
> First, telephony is neccessary in the middle of it. Second, it uses
> graphic avatars to put a body to the voice, plus X11 apps all streaming
> to the clients in virtual conference rooms. So, you could be sitting in
> a virtual boardroom, with everyone else present in their avatars (like
> SecondLife) then you can open an Xterm on a wall of the room and
> everyone can manipulate it in real time, although only one user using it
> at one time. You can pull up Open Office or Spanish Lessons, or Firefox.
> All of this while people are talking. No doubt, for it to really be
> effective, you would probably have to have Fiber Channel to a community
> fiber-based cable company service. 
>
> What excites me is that Wonderland is Linux-centric first, Windows last.
> I say screw Gates of the future and apparently so does Sun. This is
> GOOD! Only problem Im having is getting permission for Wonderland to
> launch the apps... still looking for the glitch, others are already
> doing it with great success. Now, here's the grabber for the OP,
> Wonderland will save a session movie. Couldn't that be streamed to his
> low-cost transmitter? I would think so. Using Webcams is already under
> alpha testing. I think this would be a heckuva thing to do to stream as
> a source of media to broadcast. My two-cents, Ric
>   
Ric:  Those are the magic words, "Using Webcams is already under alpha 
testing".  That moves us into the future, where the garage sale tour 
becomes a television studio, and a host moves the audience from one 
garage sale to another, buyers and sellers move out to the popcorn 
machine and barter the price of an item, etc.

Backing up, then.  Today, I pre-ordered a nanostation2 "radio".  That 
can be set up on the local water tower and create a cloud over the 
entire community.  Everyone is in line of sight.  Cost is $80.  That 
establishes a local broadband infrastructure.  No Internet access needed.

For the garage tour project, speeds will be between 10Mbps and 54Mbps.  
Is that enough?
Tom




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