Signing for fedora-announce with fedora-list (was Infrastructure status, 2008-08-16 UTC 1530)

[Roger Grosswiler]

>> On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:35:49 +0100, Marcelo M. Garcia wrote:
>>
>>> g wrote:
>>> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>> > Hash: SHA1
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Marcelo M. Garcia wrote:
>>> > <snip>
>>> >> If it's so "natural" for a user to sign fedora-announce, this should be
>>> >> stated in the web page, something like "It is highly recommend if you
>>> >> are signing for fedora-list". One step further is to put a option (like
>>> >> a check box) to sign for announce when signing for fedora-list.
>>> >
>>> > you do not need a bunch of detailed pages if you just read what is at;
>>> >
>>> >   https://redhat.com/mailman/listinfo
>>> >
>>> >> And to make users happy, a guide on how to create filters to different
>>> >> lists.
>>> >
>>> > filters are filters. email clients are not all same when it comes to
>>> > setting up filters. among easiest to set up is thunderbird.
>>> >
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> In the page that you suggest, I read "Announcements related to the
>>> Fedora Project", which seems a pretty much vague.
>>
>> Okay, but Fedora is the distribution released by the Fedora Project, so
>> related announcements should be of interest to anyone having to do
>> something with Fedora. The online list archive shows that only a very few
>> announcements have been made before.
>>
>>> And the other says
>>> "For users of Fedora", which is my case. To me don't seem logical that I
>>> should sign to both.
>>
>> Splitting-hairs. Many more lists could be made obsolete with such
>> a reasoning.
>>
>>> The whole point is, if it is so obvious that one that signs for
>>> Fedora-list should also sign for Fedora-Announce, why two separated
>>> lists?
>>
>> And who maintains the _list of lists_ to which announcements shall
>> be sent? Do you ask for major cross-posts to [more than] a dozen lists?
>>
>>> If the announces are important and concern to the users.
>>
>> ... not just to "the users", but also to several other target groups,
>> who may not be subscribed to fedora-list.
>>
>> Same applies to fedora-package-announce list.
>>
>>> Even in a high volume list like "Fedora-list", if I see a header
>>> "[INFRASTRUCTURE TEAM - Urgent] ..." I will read the message.
>>
>> Only if you read the list on a daily basis or if you know what
>> special subject marker to search for in your filters.
>>
>>> Maybe because English is not my native tongue, but the word
>>> "announcement" doesn't to suggest something that important.
>>
>> Announcements at the airport or at the train-station, do you ignore
>> them?
>
ah yeah, you won't even hear them, if you sit in traffic on your way to the station ;)

Roger