Signing for fedora-announce with fedora-list (was Infrastructure status, 2008-08-16 UTC 1530)

[Michael Schwendt]

On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:39:04 +0100, Marcelo M. Garcia wrote:

> Humm. I think you are confirming  what I said.

No.

> If every user should be in both,

No, users should be free to choose.

> since they have something to do with Fedora, why to separated 
> lists?

fedora-list => high traffic, tedious discussion threads
fedora-announce-list => very low traffic, only announcements
 
> > And who maintains the _list of lists_ to which announcements shall
> > be sent? Do you ask for major cross-posts to [more than] a dozen lists?
> > 
> 
> Yes, I'm talking about Fedora-Announce and Fedora-List only.

And subscribers of other lists don't receive the announcements?
Then let's cross-post the announcements to all fedora lists, or what?
 
> I'm not so sure if packages-announce is in the same level as 
> Fedora-announce.

Why not? It's relevant to users, so let's cross-post all package
announcements to fedora-list and remove the separate list.
(just kidding in case you don't get it)

> >> Even in a high volume list like "Fedora-list", if I see a header 
> >> "[INFRASTRUCTURE TEAM - Urgent] ..." I will read the message.
> > 
> > Only if you read the list on a daily basis or if you know what
> > special subject marker to search for in your filters.
> 
> Yes. I read the list every day.

What is easier? To read fedora-announce-list every day (roughly a single
message per month or so) or to skim over hundreds of messages on
fedora-list every day?

> >> Maybe because English is not my native tongue, but the word 
> >> "announcement" doesn't to suggest something that important.
> > 
> > Announcements at the airport or at the train-station, do you ignore
> > them?
> > 
> 
> If I remember right, the announcements in [...]

So, if you listen to those announcements, why do you consider 
a mailing-list for Fedora related announcements not important?
Re-read your part of the quote above, please.

> Now image the opposite situation, that you have to go to a specific 
> place, a room, to have announcements. I think that the life of 
> travellers would be much more difficult.

See my other reply. I refer to your sentence where you comment on
the word "announcement" and its meaning. Let's stop splitting-hairs -
some Fedora users might prefer to receive announcements via SMS or IM
instead of being forced to read e-mail lists daily. Other spend
much more time on IRC or reading news feeds. The thing here
is that because you read fedora-list every day, you want to get
announcements in that single place, too, while I argue that so
far it isn't asked too much to subscribe to fedora-announce-list.
Very low traffic that could go directly to your inbox.