Infrastructure status, 2008-08-19 UTC 0200

[Michael Schwendt]

On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:45:12 -0400, Jim Cornette wrote:

> >> I myself am not on the announce list 
> > 
> > Why not?
> 
> Because I never thought the list was informative.

Do you prefer to see emergency situations more often? ;)

It can be argued what types of messages really belong on fedora-announce-list,
but new Fedora releases, EOL, and outage notifications already have
been posted to that list. It's not a message a day yet (it's a few
messages per month instead of one per month as I mistyped elsewhere).

> > fedora-list? It is a high-traffic discussion list where one can miss an
> > important message too easily in hundreds of unimportant messages which
> > are filtered into a special folder.
> 
> It being a high volume list pretty much prevents every user to have 
> filtered the important message and replies to the message out.

You assume that every user reads the list every day.
Plus, the more lists an announcement is posted to, the more likely it is
that replies are posted to a different list and start a thread there.

> > [Btw, fedora-test-list ought to be merged with fedora-devel-list,
> > and Test Update release reports ought to be posted to fedora-list.]
> > 
> 
> The last time that I was on the development list it had an atmosphere of 
> don't post here, this is for developers to discuss issues. I believe 
> there is a warning to that effect on the web page to sign up.
> The fedora-test-list works out fine for informing people of problems 
> with development and also the testing updates get feedback to the 
> developers who are subscribed to that list.

Okay, you took the bait. That was an idea for finding out what you
would say to other reorganisation of the lists. The problem with
fedora-test-list is that it is supposed to be for "testers of
fedora development releases" which is different from "test updates for
stable releases". Test updates are relevant to users of stable releases,
but those users don't like to read all the other traffic. And the list
is a source of many off-topic threads and cross-posts (to -devel *and*
-test).

-- 
And feedback about test updates ought to be entered into bodhi anyway.