strange error

[Beartooth]

On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:33:17 +0000, g wrote:

>> I *think* I've seen a claim somewhere that you can use it with KDE
> 
> that was noted on one of pages.
> 
>> One drawback, so far, is that I haven't found out how to put together a
>> whole list of things to remove and then tell it to do so, all in one
>> fell swoop.
> 
> that is what i liked about md, check away what you do not want, then
> dump it.

	The package kit shows so many items under "Other" and 
"Programming" that I told it "apply" without them; ran yum update; and 
came back.

	Moderately bad news : the nice info under other rubrics, 
particularly the required-by tab, are entirely lacking in these. There is 
no way I can find for anybody who doesn't already know to tell what can 
be cut away safely and what not, except by trial and disaster. 

   I did notice a speech synthesis app, and tried removing that; it told 
me that would cost me four other such apps, which suited me fine. (I'm 
pretty sure an older package kit *had* told me they were removable; if 
some would-be clever developer has *removed* this function, it has to be 
the bone-headedest decision I've seen in Fedora.)

	If I could only somehow get pirut, it would help a lot. Yum 
doesn't have any sort of force option, afaict; I thought maybe pirut'd be 
in livna. I installed the F9 livna rpm, and tried "yum install pirut," 
but it still only told me I already had packagekit.

	What's so wrong with having both?? One of my PCs does; but I 
can't remember how I got it there ...

	[LATER] Having installed Opera on the EeePC, I managed to google 
up a pirut noarch rpm at rpmfind; downloaded it; tried to -ivh it; got a 
dependency for "comps-extras"; told yum to install that, which it did; 
tried rpm -ivh again -- and got a thing I haven't seen before : a notice 
that it *conflicts* with some *unnamed* file in packagekit.

	Other people online claim to have removed package kit; I'm going 
to try.

	At this point, I'm down to 50.2% file usage, according to baobab, 
and can start emulating amorous porcupines while I copy data of my own 
back in. But I'd a lot rather pare that down somewhere well below 50%, 
and then try.

-- 
Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert
Fedora 7, 8 & 9; Alpine 1.10, Pan 0.132; Privoxy 3.0.6;
Dillo 0.8.6, Galeon 2, Epiphany 2, Opera 9, Firefox 2 & 3
Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about.