Java and openjdk

[Les Mikesell]

Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> 
>>>
>>>> That's a matter of opinion.  It may matter to you why your 3rd party 
>>>> application doesn't run.  It matters to me whether it runs or not.
>>>
>>> It is not a matter of opinion. You claimed that if Fedora shipped 
>>> official Java, then the problems would disappear for third party 
>>> applications.
>>
>> I don't think that's exactly what I said.  
> 
> Oh, sure. Feel free to look up the archives.

Different conversation, I guess.  Was that back when fedora was shipping 
something that not only wasn't a version that would run 3rd party apps 
but it also wouldn't pass any conformance tests?  And you still defended 
the product?

>> OpenNMS would be a good test.  
> 
> .. which works fine.
> 
> http://yum.opennms.org/
> http://blogs.opennms.org/?p=223

Errr, that blog says it builds...  Is it your/fedora's policy that if 
something builds you should ship it?  The fedora versions that do work 
work because they require this:
http://yum.opennms.org/unstable/common/jdk/i386/jdk-1_5_0_15-linux-i586.rpm

> Run the latest release and if you find a actual problem, file a bug 
> report. Theoretical discussions are just wasting time.

Repeating other people's mistakes is what wastes time.  Here's what one 
of their developers said more recently: 
http://n2.nabble.com/Broken-Startup-on-Fedora-9-td640408.html#a640628

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