RPM Fusion needs help/RPM Fusion only is as good as its contributors make it (was: Re: Apt-get really screwed up on F9)

[Thorsten Leemhuis]

On 17.12.2008 00:55, Kam Leo wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Nigel Henry
> <cave.dnb2m97pp at aliceadsl.fr> wrote:
>
 > (Note: My only complaint
> regarding RPMFusion is that the developers have yum blnders on when
> they created their install rpm. They negilected to provide for smart
> and apt.)

RPM Fusion is a community project open to everyone. Hence if you want 
that project to do something you can either

(1) complain and hope that the right people hear it and do something do 
fix it (which often, but not always works and sometimes takes a long 
time until you get the outcome)

(2) do it yourself/help other with it

For smart complaining and waiting might be enough, because people work 
on is; but if you help it might get realized faster:
https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13

Regarding apt: I guess none of the current RPM Fusion contributers use 
it, hence nobody worked on that. Are you interested? Then tell us what 
we need to do (or even better: provide patches) and help testing the 
outcome.

Yes, I'm well aware that this mail sounds like "help or shut up" -- but 
it's really not meant like one. You are free to complain as much as you 
want and criticism is good (¹). Hence I don't want to stop or discourage 
you with this mail. I just want people to understand how things work -- 
e.g. it's basically "Only things that somebody is interested in get 
realized in community project; nearly nobody wants to do the boring 
things or things that are only useful for other people". This for apt 
afaics is the case: None of the RPM Fusion developers use it afaics, 
otherwise one would likely have worked on it. It's similar in many other 
areas of the project. There is a lot of room to improve the graphics 
drivers for example. And there are many "autoconfigure my Fedora for RPM 
Fusion, Livna, Flash, ..." apps out there -- it would be of benefit for 
everyone if one of the good ones gets into RPM Fusion as is used there 
by default.

CU
knurd

(¹) there are a lot of things that could be better; but current RPM 
Fusion developers invest quite a lot of hours of work already and try 
their best; improving it requires more or more active people afaics, 
which are not easy to find