Good bye

[Michael A. Peters]

Les Mikesell wrote:
> Arthur Pemberton wrote:
> 
>>> If some entity in the community provided a repository containing, for
>>> example, the Nvidia drivers that many users need, could said entity get
>>> their repository configuration included in this "community based
>>> distribution" to make installation automatic?
>>
>> You do realize, that Fedora cannot do this for legal reason.
> 
> Beg your pardon?  There is nothing illegal about the Nvidia drivers or 
> providing the access that users need to them.

They don't have to provide access because rpm.livna.org does.
They shouldn't include them because the bottom line is they taint the 
kernel.

I'll never forget the bug report I filed with a repeatable (on my end) 
segmentation fault when running the grep command. Guess what was 
responsible? the nvidia driver. The nvidia driver was responsible for 
causing grep to segfault. the nvidia driver was responsible for a red 
hat engineer taking his time to figure out what was happening. Now - 
whenever I have a bug I want to report, I repeat it on a machine that 
does not have any tainting modules loaded. Closed source kmods sometimes 
do funky things.

Fedora should not ship any kernel modules that taint the kernel. They 
can not possibly fix issues with them because they do not have access to 
the source code.

Let the *user* be responsible for breaking their machine by installing 
the driver. Then the issue is between the user and nVidia - not the user 
and Fedora.

It is easy enough to get the drivers, it is very well documented on 
several blogs and websites. Therefore, Fedora SHOULD wash their hands of 
kernel tainting modules.